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[ SECRET POST #2243 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2243 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Evolution]


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[My Chemical Romance and One Direction]


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[silence of the lambs]


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05. http://oi46.tinypic.com/vzc4lk.jpg
[linked for casual nudity; not porn but not the artsy kind either]


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06. http://i48.tinypic.com/2ivll3b.png
[somewhat sexual photomanip]


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07. http://i.imgur.com/88IwqTG.jpg
[and this one has naked kim jong il in it]



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[paranatural]


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[ ----- SPOILERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]













14. [SPOILERS for Walking Dead]



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15. [SPOILERS for Super Dangan Ronpa 2]



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16. [SPOILERS for Pokemon BW 2]



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17. [SPOILERS for Walking Dead]



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18. [SPOILERS for Homestuck]



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19. [WARNING for rape]



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20. [WARNING for dub-con]

[The Rocketeer]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #320.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - template ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
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[personal profile] morieris 2013-02-23 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
I still cry about the fact that he never saw Martin again.

Some spoilers therein

(Anonymous) 2013-02-23 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
I do too! Especially if you think of the timeline, where Martin is a slave/building Marshank by the time Luke "returns" (or coasts by). Having read Legend of Luke after MTW, I knew why the caves were empty and it made me terribly sad.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2013-02-23 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Brian Jacques was never good for moral complexity--apparently, he thought kids didn't want to read about good guys who weren't perfect or bad guys who weren't awful. (Meanwhile, child-me was devouring Ender's Game.)
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[personal profile] greenvelvetcake 2013-02-23 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
Though I love the Redwall books dearly, because they were very entertaining, a challenging look into morality they were not. Moral gray area? What's that?

(Anonymous) 2013-02-24 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
I think the closest he came was Veil in Outcast, with the whole nature v. nurture thing. I remember being very bothered by him as a kid, because I ended up enjoying some of the vermin characters, and I was actually pretty excited about the prospect of a "good" vermin, but nope.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-23 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
But how can perfect good guys have slaves?

(Anonymous) 2013-02-23 06:31 am (UTC)(link)
They don't. :V they're freeing the slaves.

But yeah, my one major problem with the series was always that with the exception of one or two bad guy good guys like Log a Log Tugga Bruster or one or two voles (And most of the exceptions are just crazy/neutral) and of course the rat Blaggut, all mice/moles/hedgehogs/otters/squirrels/badgers are universally good while all rats/stoats/ferrets/foxes/etc are always evil. Foxes especially pissed me off when the first book starts out insinuating that they're generally neutral. :<

Also that the sparrows apparently all died out after Mattimeo. Birds in general after that point seem to be either completely wild and hazardous or neutral good guys.
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[personal profile] morieris 2013-02-23 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)

I only remember Romsca from Pearls of Lutra and...two rats from...Salamandastron who liked to build boats or whatever and of course the Log A Log from Doomwytes and the watervole (nameless) from Eulalia! and there's two more that verge on the not so good but not evil spectrum.

The thing is, a lot of the instances aren't in the older books where it would really have been fantastic.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-23 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
There are thousands of moral quandaries in Jacques books that he never thought to deal with. It's okay if you do. Looking back on it and all the things that are wrong does not make my first reading of Redwall any less magical. <3

(Anonymous) 2013-02-23 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
A Redwall secret! *squees*

Carry on.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-23 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
But he didn't! The slaves, by utter contrivance of the story, were ALL at the front half of the ship fighting the vast majority of the pirates/corsairs/whatever with just Luke and the berserk black squirrel chick in the back half.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2013-02-23 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
And the front half somehow miraculously stayed afloat when the back half sank?

(Anonymous) 2013-02-23 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
No, it got jammed into the rock columns as pictured there on the cover.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2013-02-23 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
Wait. Wait.

Does this apparently huge climactic battle happen at the beginning of the book, or did the cover artist spoil the ending?

(I stopped reading Redwall with, I think, Outcast. Never got to Legend of Luke.)
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[personal profile] greenvelvetcake 2013-02-23 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, yes, it does. I'm pretty sure the people telling the story to Martin are the former slaves/companions of Luke who were on the ship during the final battle. Not positive, though.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-23 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
They are. It is kind of a spoiler but not reeeeeeeeaaaally since you don't know right away who survives and who doesn't. Which is a shame, cause Ranguvar was badass.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-23 06:25 am (UTC)(link)
Spoilers!

Basically, the whole thing with Luke is the middle 'act' of three, book-ended by Martin going to find out about what happened to his father. Before you learn anything about him except for the standing-on-the-shore flashback that we had in like three books total, you run into Beau, Vurg and the other two whose names I don't remember off the top of my head, living in the remains of the Goreleech.

They tell him the story about his father and them, ending with Luke, one arm bound to the ship's wheel, the other pinning Vilu Daskar to it despite being stabbed several times, steering it into the tall rocks in the middle of a storm, ramming it into one column with Ranguvar holding off several other corsairs. A huge wave sweeps the ship side-on into another column, permanently embedding and sticking the forward half up on the rocks while he sinks with the back half.

Then they go back to Redwall with some minor happenings along the way, at which point Martin ACTUALLY retires like he supposedly did in the backstory of Redwall/at the end of Mossflower.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-23 05:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Kinda off topic but makes me wonder why would the survivors stay and live in a ship where they were once horribly enslaved? (Not to mention its precarious position)....

[personal profile] liliummuse 2013-02-23 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
I want to believe this. I really do.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-23 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
I'm going to have to reread this now and ponder, it's still on my bookshelf.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-23 06:33 am (UTC)(link)
Aside from The Dark is Rising books, Redwall books are literally my entire bookshelf. It makes me super happy to see secrets posted about them ♥

(Anonymous) 2013-02-23 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Same here.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-23 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Welcome to the club! *waves*

In response to the secret, yeah, that was unfortunate, but in the circumstances he was in there are a limited number of things one could do and seeing the best one from inside the situation would be harder than people often think.

this is one of my favorite Redwall books

(Anonymous) 2013-02-23 05:54 pm (UTC)(link)
the only ones I like better are Mariel (most badass heroine ever!), Mattimeo, and Salamandastron.

These books were my CHILDHOOD, man. They run together, especially the later ones, but there were brilliant moments in every one. You can argue what you want about the moral ambiguity, but compared to the constant drag of school assignment books (was there ever a Newberry award-winning book that WASNT depressing?) it was amazingly satisfying to have evil get kicked in the tail and good triumph. And eat good food. Damn but those books always made me hungry.

(What IS meadowcream anyway and where can I get some? not to mention all the candied nuts, omnomnomnom)
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