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⌈ Secret Post #2243 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Evolution]

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[My Chemical Romance and One Direction]

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[silence of the lambs]

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05. http://oi46.tinypic.com/vzc4lk.jpg
[linked for casual nudity; not porn but not the artsy kind either]

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06. http://i48.tinypic.com/2ivll3b.png
[somewhat sexual photomanip]

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07. http://i.imgur.com/88IwqTG.jpg
[and this one has naked kim jong il in it]

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[paranatural]

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14. [SPOILERS for Walking Dead]

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15. [SPOILERS for Super Dangan Ronpa 2]

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16. [SPOILERS for Pokemon BW 2]

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17. [SPOILERS for Walking Dead]

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18. [SPOILERS for Homestuck]

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19. [WARNING for rape]

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20. [WARNING for dub-con]

[The Rocketeer]

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Hey Op though, if I can ask... most people who try to read homestuck and can't get through it tend to just say "It was boring" as opposed to "It angered me"

I'm curious, along with nurse it seems, exactly what makes you angry about it, if you can put that into words? Is it the art? I promise this isn't' me about to try to convert you, I'm just curious.

Edited 2013-02-23 01:03 (UTC)

Part of it is the art (I don't know why, it's just viscerally unappealing to me), part of it is resentment over the aforementioned seizure-inducing gifs that get posted everywhere, and part of it is my annoyance at the fact that it's everywhere, even in other fandom spaces. On top of that, all the criticisms I've seen of it with regards to how it handles certain things makes me wary of investing my time in something that might just make me flip a table 200+ chapters in or however long it is right now. The fact that I don't like the art and the format just means that I'm not even willing to try to affirm or deny my preconceptions. And I mean, I did try once, but I looked at the first page or two and it just...makes me feel like it doesn't want to be read. And I'm not big on hate-reading or actively fighting for my enjoyment.

I know it's not boring because my friends all pretty much livetweet their reactions on twitter - I know it's interesting and fun and dramatic, and I know it's slow at the beginning and picks up later. And honestly, I probably would have fun with it if I could get into it - hell, I'd probably be just as annoying as the rest of my friends about it. (They're actually not that annoying about it - I can objectively see that they're no more chatty about it than any other fandom they or I am into.) But it's like...I can't, and because I can't and everyone else can, I'm angry about it, and my anger towards it makes me more unable to try to get into it, and it's just a vicious cycle of, "I wish this thing everybody liked would go away/stop being likable so I don't have to be unhappy about disliking it."

I've never really had this problem with anything else before because my friends and I share a lot of fandoms and generally have similar opinions on things, but this is one thing that most of them are into or are getting into and I'm out of the loop because I can't even bring myself to give it a chance :/

I like Homestuck, but I see where you're coming on the seizure-inducing gifs. I just started reading it recently, so I've been archive-binging, and sometimes I just have to take a break, because the constant panels where a character's shaking around like they're having a seizure give me a headache.

If you really want to try it, and a big part of the barrier is the art style and flashing gifs, go over here. You can just read it as the text, and click the links any time you think you might be missing something and really need the visual reference.

I can't help you with the bitterness cycle, but if you know that's part of your problem, you can try to separate things out in your head I guess? Or just start on a day when you're hitting the 'man there is cool stuff here I wish I could -' part of the cycle instead of the 'and I CAN'T and it SUCKS' part.

As someone who took three tries to get into homestuck and loves it now, I hope you *can* get into it, but if it's really not for you, then it's not, and that's okay. There are other fandoms with cool stuff too.

Edited 2013-02-23 06:39 (UTC)

That's actually really close to how I felt about it for a long time, and I had to gradually ease myself into it. I don't know what you can do, except maybe adblock it? I am still curious about the "certain things", but I won't press you about it.

Well, I raise my eyebrow at some of the "criticisms" because SJW and idiots like the people who run calloutstuck accuse this thing of some pretty stupid things. I'd bet if you were that far in, you'd have the context to know what was going on and I don't think those things would anger you half as much as the biased versions of events.

That said, I promised I wasn't going to try to convert you and I meant it. The truth is, getting to those events I mentioned would mean hours to days of investment. And if you hate the art, well shit, that's a lot of fucking time. And the gifs are something that perpetually happen through the whole damn thing.

I would only ask that you take those criticisms with the same grain of salt you take all the other ones for other fandoms you like out there. this comic is not some great social commentary and was never meant to be and just cause it made a caucasian joke once isn't a reason to hate it. You have plenty of legit reasons not to like it, stick to those!

I normally link folks to the music so they can at least like something about homestuck but I'll do you a favor and forego that this time. I'm sure your friends already tried.

Not OP, but I definitely resented homestuck for a while after I gave it a try. I'm over it now, I'm indifferent, but for me it was because of the GIANT TIME INVESTMENT I wasted on something I ultimately never stopped hating.

I wanted to stop reading homestuck after five minutes. Normally, when I start something new and I really don't like it, I put it away, no hard feelings. But with homestuck, I was pre-warned by the people who recced it to me: the beginning was kind of boring. It took a long time to build up to awesomeness. But it would be totally worth it, because the payoff was awesome!

So I continued. I wasted hours and hours of my precious free time (full-time employed, so I only have a limited amount of time to spend on my hobbies) struggling my way through this comic I hated. I got to Act 3, still hating every moment. So I said to my friends, 'Look, I really don't think this is for me. It's not even that I'm not that into it, I actually hate it. I don't think I'm going to change my mind'. But even then, they insisted that it would get better. I just needed to get to the trolls! They really hated it too! Oh yeah, that bit sucks, you just need to get through it!

But guess what? I got to the trolls, and I still hated it! I never ended up liking anything about Homestuck, but by the time I got to a point where people were no longer telling me I just hadn't made it to the good bits yet, I'd invested SO MUCH OF MY TIME into reading this bullshit that for a good while afterwards, every mention of Homestuck made me pretty angry.

Okay yeah that was way too long. I'm very much a preacher of "You gotta get through that first slow part!" But I say if by WV: Ascend (I think that's like, 200 or so pages in, anybody who doesn't know homestuck, understand pages are of varying length and some are just a single panel picture for 4 pages straight), you aren't into it? You aren't, stop trying, don't bother. Going to the trolls is way way way too far. Sorry you got such bad advice.

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