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When and how did the word hipster go from meaning "likes obscure things just because they're obscure, hates mainstream things just because they're mainstream, and is a pretentious douche about it" to simply meaning "likes obscure things"?

Hipster doesn't even mean that anymore. It means "someone who I think thinks that they're cooler than me". That's pretty much all it means anymore, it's basically a meaningless term nowadays.

When the general population stopped assuming that the only possible reason for someone to ever like obscure things was because they were pretentious mainstream-hating douches.

This isn't technically an answer to your question but this is kind of about the history of the word.

I think the word still means both? It just depends on who you're talking to. Also, it's bound to change as time goes on. That's kind of what words do.

I thought everyone still hated hipsters, though?

the internet loves latching onto words and using them ad nauseum until they lose any and all meaning they might have had in the first place
seems to me that "hipster" has become an easier way of saying "person who does a thing i dont like"

...I thought a hipster originally was just a person who liked obscure things, and modern definitions tacked on the douchey aspect of it o_O Then again, people might be applying the word because they see the "likes obscure things" aspect in a person and simply assume the "just because they're obscure, hates mainstream things just because they're mainstream, and is a pretentious douche about it" part.

when other people started using it ironically

IDK people haven't used that word correctly in at least three years

IIRC, some American wrote a book describing he and his friends as such, and defining what it meant, and everyone their age in a certain income bracket took it as an instruction manual, becoming Borg-ified shadows of whatever selves they had (questionable) to begin with.

They use the word "Ironically" a lot. But they use it in the same way it was (mis)-used in Alanis Morrissette's music video, "Isn't it Ironic?" Also featured is pricey designer thrift-store-look fashion (they spend thousands of dollars to look like they're homeless, and/or possibly don't practice good self-care), and anything from the 1980s is treated as the epitome of human civilization (even though these kids probably weren't even out of diapers when they wear t-shirts with the brands/logos in question were popular.)

Or, y'know, I could just be an old fogey, and totally missing the point of something that the generation after me has picked up on.

The 80s sucked, man. Why would you worship them? Why?

The 80s quite possibly had the best alternative/underground/independent music (for lack of a better word, just... stuff on independent labels) ever, that's probably responsible for the obsession

I get people who are obsessed with 80s stuff like post punk bands or whatever but not so much the neon leg-warmers and Debbie Gibson and shit like that

neon legwarmers are the most beautiful thing ever invented

how dare you

you take that back

take that back right now

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