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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-02-24 03:21 pm

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-24 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Didn't you learn anything from racism wank? ~ism = power + prejudice.

Men going on and on about the attractiveness or lack thereof of female characters is sexist. Women doing the same about male characters might be shallow and even grating, but it is not and cannot be sexist.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-25 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
And that is why nobody takes feminists seriously.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-25 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
There's a difference between a feminist and a Person Who Believes Everything Ivory Tower Academics Say. Unfortunately, a lot of PWBEITAS' identify as feminists, so.

But, yeah.

So, sociology decided to redefine all the -isms as being expressions of systematic/institutional oppression, which is great when it comes to research into these phenomena. It's not great, however, when it comes to relating with the general public. You can't just make up a new definition for a word in a purely academic setting and expect everyone else in the world to adopt said definition. What's more, you don't have much of a leg to stand on when it comes to getting mad at everyone else for not readily understanding/adopting your redefinition of a word that is elsewhere defined differently.

Or, shorter version: using the sociological definitions of -isms outside of sociological circles doesn't actually do shit or help anyone. It just confuses people and puts them on the defensive.
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[personal profile] ill_omened 2013-02-25 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
No, that would be institutional racism/sexism etc.

Jesus, we had a perfectly good modifier for this, what is to be gained in adopting a very specific meaning for a common usage term with a clear laymans meaning, that is only going to act to cause confusion and get people to instinctively dismiss your point or be antagonistic towards you.

What do you even hope to gain here, it's honestly confusing to me. It's not as though this is the exclusive and long established meaning of the term even in an academic context. Why are you trying to shift the meaning when there's countless negatives against the positive of what, not tagging institutional on the front of something a couple times an essay?

(Anonymous) 2013-02-25 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
Hahahahahah....

wait, you're serious?