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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-02-26 06:43 pm

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Fic question (fantasy/pregnancy)

[personal profile] maverickz3r0 2013-02-27 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Hm. So I don't usually start threads here. Hi!

Anyway, I'm writing a fic that I may or may not finish, that is a mild AU of a game. It's m/m, but the main characters canonically have a daughter each in the game who become important to the plot via time travel and parallel futures and all that wonderful stuff.

Naturally, this means I still need the kids to be actually born. My original thought was that they'd find a birth mother for each of the kids (or maybe the same one for both so they're at least half-siblings by blood) since the older one at least is born partway through the plot and that part is somewhat important.

Of course, now I'm wondering if I can stretch the healing magic to cover some method of artificial conception--likely similar to in-vitro--or if I'd be better off implying they actually did have sex with the woman involved with fertility potions or something making sure they only had to once? It'd be all above-board stuff, nothing shady (or in the context of the extended worldbuilding I'm doing, all that odd), so I'm not worried about that part.

The healing magic in question is pretty much Standard RPG Healing Magic. Repairs injuries, minor buffs, there are potions you drink to restore hitpoints and a few others that can do some other things like temporary stat boosts. The magic in general is typically the offensive elemental type, although I've sort of slightly played with that already in its applications. The setting is fairly standard swords-and-sorcery fantasy, with the home country of the characters being noted even in canon for being peaceful and open-minded.

So I guess this is what I'm asking: would it be too weird for them, in that context, to know a spell that would enable a woman to get pregnant without having to have sex with a man? The main hurdle to that would probably be 'how would they, in a medieval-ish setting, know exactly how pregnancy happens?'
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Re: Fic question (fantasy/pregnancy)

[personal profile] inkdust 2013-02-27 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Well...I know basically zero about RPG healing magic, so this comes more from a general fantasy angle. Regardless - it seems more plausible to me that they would know some kind of spell / potion combination to create pregnancy than to have some kind of fertility booster that guaranteed works every time. The question of knowing how pregnancy happens seems almost irrelevant to me if they have healing magic capabilities, probably because I think of healing magic as being able to sense things about the body (here's where I may be off genre-wise) so I wouldn't see the body and conception as being some kind of inexplicable mystery to them. Just my two cents from way off.
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Re: Fic question (fantasy/pregnancy)

[personal profile] maverickz3r0 2013-02-27 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Hm, generic fantasy works too.

The healing magic is generally treated as relatively catch-all in the common fanon from what I've seen--although I've never seen it used like this before. So maybe, yeah.

Re: Fic question (fantasy/pregnancy)

(Anonymous) 2013-02-27 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure people knew where/how babies came from in the middle ages, and it really isn't outside the realm of possibility that someone magical could manage inducing a pregnancy somehow (implanting semen wouldn't be too hard to believe). Did you consider mpreg since you seem to want babies without m/f sex or the woman in the story?

Have to admit, the woman=baby incubator vibe your giving is kinda skeevy though.
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Re: Fic question (fantasy/pregnancy)

[personal profile] maverickz3r0 2013-02-27 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
Haaate mpreg. Not a thing that's going to happen.

That's not the implication I'm trying to give off, which is the other problem with it I guess. The woman who I'm considering having carry the child is a friend of theirs (technically she's the preferred marriage option for one of them in game-canon), and as I understand it having a birth mother is a not entirely unheard of thing IRL. She has her own role in the plot otherwise, too, it just wasn't relevant to this particular question.

The story is an extended AU, so. The woman will be in the story...there are quite a lot of women in the story. At the moment I'm aiming for 'which of these things sounds better and is more plausible' more than anything else.

Re: Fic question (fantasy/pregnancy)

(Anonymous) 2013-02-27 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, ok! Just the way you worded it made it sound like you were looking for a solution to get around her.

Artificial insemination via magic seems most plausible to me. Though if the magic is tripping you up you could have them do it non-magically - women in ancient Greece had ceramic/stone dildos, so a narrow tube to deposit semen wouldn't really be beyond belief either.
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Re: Fic question (fantasy/pregnancy)

[personal profile] maverickz3r0 2013-02-27 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
Hm, seems to be the consensus honestly. Which relieves me a little--the more I thought about it, the more the fertility potion + have sex with once just for a child thing was bugging me. Not only did it sounds...skeevy, but it seemed pretty out of character for everyone involved.
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Re: Fic question (fantasy/pregnancy)

[personal profile] elialshadowpine 2013-02-27 09:30 am (UTC)(link)
It's magic; you can do whatever you like with it and say, "it's magic". You could also explain that, because of magic, they are more aware of the body's workings than real medieval doctors were. Basically, you can work it however you like, just the important thing is to remain consistent!
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Re: Fic question (fantasy/pregnancy)

[personal profile] charming_stranger 2013-02-27 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Basically, you can work it however you like, just the important thing is to remain consistent!

This. Consistency > similarity to real world.

Although if you do want to stay close to real-world medieval Europe, you should probably be aware that it was believed at the time that both the man and the woman needed to enjoy themselves during the sexytimes (not sure if female orgasm was thought necessary) for conception to happen. (Don't think too hard about the real-world consequences of this belief, or its refutation. It will only make you sad.)