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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-02-28 06:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #2249 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2249 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Otoyomegatari]


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03.
[Girls und Panzer]


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04.
[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic]


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[Monster High]


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06.
[My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic]


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07.
[Jackass 3D]


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08.
[Paranatural]


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09.
[Angelina Jolie]


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10.
[Der Ring des Nibelungen]


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11.
[Mary Shelley's Frankenhole]


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[Medium]


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13.
[The Americans]


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14.
[The Mindy Project]


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15.
[5Dolls, T-ARA]


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16.
[A Good Day To Die Hard]


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[Harry Potter]



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18. http://i45.tinypic.com/2v0bjpd.jpg
[linked for porn, Spartacus: Vengeance]


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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-03-01 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I should provide citation



To me, this looks like a pretty nice way of saying "I had nothing to do with this." There's nothing in the bible about it, no sketches of any kind, nothing to contradict this.

Also, she didn't even want Cadence to be a Alicorn originally. And Celestia was supposed to be a queen. Obviously all of this changed, but a lot of that was the call of somebody else (except the Queen part, that was changed before the show started obviously)

We already knew that Unicorn were the superior Pony Race. Before Celestia, it was they that brought the night and day.

The Alicorn is simply the ultimate Unicorn. Die Überpony

(Anonymous) 2013-03-01 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
da

Interesting!

I hadn't seen those tweets before, thanks!

(Anonymous) 2013-03-01 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Interesting!

I heard the reason Celestia wasn't a queen was because queens in cartoons are almost always evil, and they didn't want people thinking that would be the case with Celestia, so they decided to make her a princess instead.

Though honestly, she seems very queen-like, and it's obvious she's not on the same level as other princesses in the show, given she's effectively some kind of sun deity.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-01 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
Not that it stopped some people from thinking she's evil anyway. *eyeroll*

(Anonymous) 2013-03-01 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Making her an alicorn so soon=/=Stating she never planned to make her one eventually.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-03-01 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
I think we can logic that if she didn't intend to have more then the alicorns introduced at the beginning, there were no plans in motion for alicorns.

This was Hasbro's decision, pure and simple.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-01 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
except not so pure and simple, there's no evidence that this was a unilateral decision by solely Hasbro. Honestly the whole finale smacked of being a potential series finale with the whole montage at the end, and given how the episode was said by the writers to have been written back in 2011 it's much more likely that this thing was written as a potential end to the series itself, since back then the shortened season would have put them at the magical 65 episode syndication mark that has killed so many kid's shows in the past. When it was written there was probably much more uncertainty over whether or not there would even be a season 4, maybe a direct to T.V. movie at a later date or maybe corporate was debating having the equestria girls spinoff be the new direction while axing the original series.

Honestly, a lot of season 3 came off like the writers were trying to wrap things up with a couple of vague outs in case season 4 became a reality, the trixie and discord episode, scootaloo finally getting an episode, and rainbow dash finally making it into the wonderbolts academy.

Actually especially the wonderbolts academy the original ending to that episode very much came off like an attempt to wrap up dash's ambitions by having her choose her friends and morals over her ambition. The current ending leaves things much more open for future development and could have changed after season 4 was actually confirmed.

But eh whatever, it's all speculation, I just highly doubt the alicorn Twilight decision was solely a Hasbro thing.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-03-01 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
This leak was from a source that was reliable about other things in the past. It came out before the 4th season was confirmed and while Alicorn Twilight was still being denied.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-01 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
That's the problem with rumors is that even if they look right or get some things right that doesn't mean they are always reliable. Here's the problem with that rumor is that it came at the time around the start of season 3 and basically gave voice to all of the speculation that was running rampant at the time. People were calling alicorn twilight as soon as the special destiny thing was announced and twilight alicorn merchandise had been showing up, and the second part of the rumor has been proven to be false Hasbro has gone ahead with licensing derpy toys and merchandise well into 2013 as well as allowing her to return to the background for the season finale. That rumor while verbose only really states 2 things, one of which had been heavily discussed and hinted at previously and the other turned out to be false.

In the end, I'm sure Hasbro likes the idea of Twilight alicorn, but there is still nothing to prove that it was a unilateral decision on their part.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-03-01 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
This secret says Derpy is out as of S4, which hasn't happened yet. She definitely appears less in season 3, but we have no way of confirming or denying that part yet, so nothing has been proven false. Episodes are not always produced in order and it's probably if she is being sent off that she'd appear one last time in the finale due to the fact the staff liked her too.

As I said, this same source said other things before, which came to pass. I'm not going to get into a citation war with you, but I trust this source, and don't see anything that's contradicted this post yet.

If Derpy shows up in S4 premiere, then it will be suspect. Until then, I believe it true which means that what it says is true: Hasbro wanted Alicorn Twilight. Not others. Lauren certainly has not directly mentioned any plans of her own for Twilight to have become an Alicorn, and I think shed have mentioned it by now. I bought the brony doc and will retract this statement if it turns out she elaborated more on the "successor" thing, but for now I think what we see her is what is fact.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-01 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
I know what source your quoting and everything else I've seen out of it has been either vague, heavily implied or talked about already, or turned out to be false so I remain skeptical.

Still, that is fair enough and even if the source is completely false that doesn't mean that it wasn't all hasbros decision, corporate culture is very fragmented and can often involve contradictory decisions from multiple people at multiple levels of management, but as someone who has been involved with corporate decisions like this before, I find it is rarely as cut and dry as consumers like to think it is. Given the statement by Mrs. Faust (which was made in an interview that took place well before alicorn twilight was announced and after faust was out of the production loop so likely didn't see it coming) as well as previous setups throughout the first two seasons, I just don't see it as Hasbro forcing a decision that had never even entered the writers minds before now. If Applejack had become an alicorn then yes that would be much easier to believe as corporate meddling, Twilight seems more like something that was in the plans as a possibility and Hasbro more likely having a hand in its timing rather than its existance

Much more likely it was something that was put forth as a possibility with season 3 being the potential end of the show, and being given the go ahead as Hasbro began to plan expansions to it's toyline, especially considering that this year is the 30th anniversary since MLP's beginning I believe. In the end, I would say it was in part planned by both the writers and Hasbro with even Mrs. Faust putting it forward as a potential plot point back in the beginning.

I suppose this whole spiel comes off as nitpicky since I'm still admitting the possibility your right, but I suppose we will see what happens as season 4 comes out.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-01 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Das Überpony, bitte. ;)