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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-03-03 02:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #2252 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2252 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Billie Piper - Doctor Who/Secret Diary of a Call Girl]


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[Steam Powered Giraffe]


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[Teen Wolf]


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[Kuroko no Basket]


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[Princess Tutu]


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[Kuroshitsuji]


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[Queer as Folk]


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[The Reward]


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[Spartacus: War of the Damned]


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[The Following]


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[Les dossiers du Professeur Bell]


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[Misfits]


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[Saint's Row The Third]


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[Penn and Teller]


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[Harry Potter]


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[personal profile] lunabee34 2013-03-03 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I want to agree with you except I think that the epilogue, in which the status quo seems to be preserved, negates that idea. It would have been so easy to have a dwarf on the platform with a wand or mention the new crest on one of the children's robes that stands for a different kind of house or some slight mention of the success of any of the social reforms that the books appear to be leading up to but then don't do anything with. I think fanfic does a great job of exploring these issues, though.
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2013-03-03 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
And by dwarf, I clearly mean goblin. LOL Been reading LotR lately.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-03-03 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I wrote a comment about it below but basically: 1. Societies don't totally change in nineteen years 2. JKR was lazy and didn't bother to show the small changes that could have happened in nineteen years, because she was more interested in squeezing in character development for the next generation of kids.

I think the latter part was a rather standard "sacrifice good storytelling for fanservice" deal.
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2013-03-03 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
That's what we have fanfic for!

(Although I think some changes could reasonably have been made in 19 years, but that's neither here nor there since we don't get to see any of them.)
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-03-03 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah it pretty much was.

I'm not really complaining about that, though. It was clearly tacked-on, and it's easy to ignore if you didn't want it.
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[personal profile] grainne_mhaol 2013-03-03 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
The only way the epilogue works for me is to read it as deeply ironic. It's not just that we don't see progress, what we do see is laced with evidence that la plus ca change. The characters with the same old names. The same familiar tropes. Ron still 'hilariously' confunding a Muggle behind Hermione's back instead of respecting them. The reminder of the house system and the stigma of Slytherin. The scene where Harry reassures Albus privately is sweet, and yet still evidence that things which ought to be matters of public discussion are still relegated to secret whispers.

In the face of all that the last thought of Harry (the same Harry whose last thought in the book proper was to wonder if his house-elf would bring him a sandwich) that 'all is well' sounds completely misguided to me.

Harry's wrong. All the systemic problems are still in place, and the next Dark Lord is imminent tbh.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-03 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
"
Harry's wrong. All the systemic problems are still in place, and the next Dark Lord is imminent tbh."


And this time probably from Gryffindor. My headcannon is that it is one of the Weasley kids, just so they get the message that they are part of the problem and not somehow special and above all of that.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-03 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Gryffindor don't think they're special and above the rest, and the Weasleys sure as hell don't.

That being said, that premise would make an awesome fanfic.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-03 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh please, the Weasley family's main attribute seems to be "smug" and Ron is smug+asshole. They don't have the same born-to-rule mentality the Malfoy's and the rest of the DE have, but they do have a sense of being better through being so obviously good and (self)righteous.

There is more than one sort of superiority complex. The Weasley's have a less obvious version than the Death Eaters, but they still have one.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-04 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
I concur. The word that I would use to describe the Weasleys' is sanctimonious. Mr. Weasley's fascination with muggles is especially ripe with this. Every time he talked about anything muggle related, it was like he was incredulous that muggles could do anything without magic.

I maintain that wizarding world is in a period of decline, characterized by an extended of cultural stagnation and within a generation will have another dark lord trying to take over. I also think that muggle borns might start rejecting the wizarding world as they get exposed to tech younger and younger.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-04 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Can you imagine a muggleborn being offered a place at Hogwarts today? Sounds really cool and they get all excited, then they learn there is no wi-fi, they can't take their iphone, and they'll have to give up cable tv and air-con for life. I give that three seconds to a "fuck that y'all".

(Anonymous) 2013-03-04 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
Three seconds? I was mentally oh-fuck-no'ing that as I read "no wi-fi".

(Anonymous) 2013-03-04 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
+1 to the word sanctimonious for the Weasleys. That whole attitude is why I disliked them basically from the start. Also Mr. Weasley. I've never understood why Hermione at least never called him out on that - she even mentioned once about ridiculous wizarding views from her muggle studies class and I'd have thought she'd be offended and alarmed that someone in a position of actual authority in the matter held such views.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-04 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
...Is there fanfiction like this? Because I wants it. It sounds deliciouses.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-04 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
there are, but I've never gone out of my way to read them so I can't remember any names, sorry

(Anonymous) 2013-03-04 09:08 am (UTC)(link)
Arsinoe de blassenville "The golden age", it's on ff.net. It's quite chilling.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-04 12:35 pm (UTC)(link)
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3682339/1/The-Golden-Age

Link to that fanfic for those wanting it
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[personal profile] kittenmommy 2013-03-04 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)

Thanks!

(Anonymous) 2013-03-04 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3675690/1/Ouroboros
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[personal profile] kittenmommy 2013-03-04 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)

That was lovely. Thank you!
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2013-03-04 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
I pretty much agree with you.

I think one of the main reasons that Harry doesn't end up making the same kinds of choices that Snape or Voldemort did is because he's instantly surrounded in the magical world by people who connect him to a long-standing legacy of righteousness, who extend love to him, and who assure him that he's special and that he has almost a divine mandate to be a warrior for the right. If he'd showed up at Hogwarts somehow and been sorted into Slytherin and not been given that network, he'd be a very different Harry. (I do realize that Harry also has an innate sense of ethics that also seems to differentiate him from, say, Voldemort, but I think that easily have been quashed out of him rather than cultivated).

All that to say, I can easily see the rise of another Dark Lord in the status quo the epilogue seems to imply.