[ SECRET POST #2252 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2252 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Billie Piper - Doctor Who/Secret Diary of a Call Girl]


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03.
[Steam Powered Giraffe]


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04.
[Teen Wolf]


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05.
[Kuroko no Basket]


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06.
[Princess Tutu]


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07.
[Kuroshitsuji]


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08.
[Queer as Folk]


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09.
[The Reward]


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10.
[Spartacus: War of the Damned]


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11.
[The Following]


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12.
[Les dossiers du Professeur Bell]


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13.
[Misfits]


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14.
[Saint's Row The Third]


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15.
[Penn and Teller]


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16.
[Harry Potter]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 093 secrets from Secret Submission Post #322.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

also, to repeat my comment from earlier that you ignored, you've never encountered a person, real or fictional, who was really attractive physically but had a really terrible personality, such that while you liked looking at them you strongly disliked hearing them speak?

[intrigueing]

That's not what I think is wrong. It's the implied attitude that female characters are better when they shut up and show skin that bugs me. If the OP doesn't actually feel that way, my apologies, but that's what it sounds like.

[(Anonymous)]

Where's the part of the secret that says the OP means all female characters? I only see reference to one actress.

[(Anonymous)]

because one specific actress playing two specific characters = all actresses playing all characters. The only way you could possibly interpret this the way you have is if you were actively looking for something to justify your assumptions about how other people view women.

[intrigueing]

Um, no? I really can't think of a way to respond to this weird comment except, uh, no, that's not what I think. I think it's douchey to have that attitude towards any female character that you choose to watch and that you're not being forced to watch.

[(Anonymous)]

Um, yes.

"That's not what I think is wrong. It's the implied attitude that female characters are better when they shut up and show skin that bugs me. If the OP doesn't actually feel that way, my apologies, but that's what it sounds like."

That was you, (http://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/766753.html?thread=634470177#cmt634470177) saying that this secret-- which references ONE SPECIFIC FEMALE AND ONE FEMALE ONLY-- implies that it's expressing an opinion about "female characterS" as a whole.

[intrigueing]

Yes? I don't see how my comment contradicts my earlier comment.

If you have that attitude towards any female character that you choose to watch and that you're not forced to watch, it does seem to imply a particular attitude towards female characters as a whole.

It's not like real life, where you can be forced to associate with someone you hate but think is hot. In fiction, you're seeking out these kinds of female characters. There is a difference, IMO.

[(Anonymous)]

If you have that attitude towards any female character that you choose to watch and that you're not forced to watch, it does seem to imply a particular attitude towards female characters as a whole.

...and...

In fiction, you're seeking out these kinds of female characters.

You're assuming that OP is watching things involving Billie Piper solely for the purpose of hating on Billie Piper. OP could be a Doctor Who fan who chose to watch the show despite the presence of Billie Piper, and s/he could have chosen to watch Secret Diary of a Call Girl despite the presence of Billie Piper. I watch shows and movies all the time that involve characters that I don't like. I continue to watch them because I enjoy enough of the rest of the material.

[(Anonymous)]

"If you have that attitude towards any female character that you choose to watch and that you're not forced to watch, it does seem to imply a particular attitude towards female characters as a whole."

WTF? No it doesn't. You don't know why the OP's watching the show, so you're only assuming it's some weird form of wankery about misogyny instead of a specific issue with Billie Piper-- you know, as was stated explicitly in the secret.

Also, people are allowed to have opinions about entertainment even though entertainment is something we voluntarily consume. Hence all the secrets in this post about various forms of entertainment.