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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-03-05 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #2254 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2254 ⌋

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leisuretime: (Default)

Hunger Games movie

[personal profile] leisuretime 2013-03-06 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Just watched it. Never read the book. Also, I'm sure this is very tl;dr.

Generally I liked it, but I found the stories I really wanted to know about -- Hyamitch and Rue's -- were very under done. Seriously,if we got a book about Haymitch's time during and after his Hunger Games and a short story on Rue's time, I think I'd be satisfied forever.

Because, while I actually really liked Katniss a lot -- and I generally have a hard time connecting with female characters (cue the "internalized misogyny!!!" rants now) -- I just didn't care about Peeta. Everything about him seemed so incredibly insincere after the reaping that until the end, I pretty much always thought he was just playing the game. All I could do was think back to him waving from the train and smiling at the Capital and Haymitch's "He gets it."

And it's hard to like people when there's no sincerity there. And for everything Haymitch knows about how to sell stories and get people to like him, there's still something about him that seems genuine. Maybe he would have been just like Peeta in his day, but something makes me doubt it.

And now I have a feeling that the second movie/book is going to be what I assumed the first one was (which is why I took so long to have anything to do with it): massive Gale/Katniss/Peeta love triangle. Which I do not want. And if it's not that, I suspect it's going to be a bunch of angsting over Katniss not really wanting Peeta but somehow being pressured to continue a charade that Peeta wants to be real and I just DO. NOT. WANT.

But I do kinda want to go back and hunt for all the old Hunger Games secrets to see if I can relate to any of them now.

Re: Hunger Games movie

(Anonymous) 2013-03-06 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
haymitch's backstory is elaborated on more in the books

Re: Hunger Games movie

(Anonymous) 2013-03-06 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
I can't remember which it was, but I think it was the second book that went into much greater detail about Haymitch, so maybe the movie will, too.

Re: Hunger Games movie

(Anonymous) 2013-03-06 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Haymitch is expanded on a lot. Rue, sadly, not much at all (I wanted to know more about her, too).

Peeta -- without too many spoilers, I don't think it was clear enough in the movie, but hopefully the next movie will eliminate your worries, as it becomes somewhat important. Except there are lots of people who miss the entire point and think yes he's pressuring her, I can only assume because that's what the rough equivalents of his character in other fictional love triangles tend to do.
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Re: Hunger Games movie

[personal profile] leisuretime 2013-03-06 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Just based on this movie, I was never really under the impression that she felt pressured by PEETA (mainly because clearly she could mop the floor with him in physical strength AND personal character) but more by the situation. And that's something I expect to see continued -- her in a "relationship" with someone she doesn't love while carrying the tiniest of torches for someone else, maybe even acting on it.

And it's just hard for anyone to come off looking good in that scenario. Which bugs me, because Katniss came out of this movie looking SO GOOD.

Re: Hunger Games movie

(Anonymous) 2013-03-06 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
And that's something I expect to see continued -- her in a "relationship" with someone she doesn't love while carrying the tiniest of torches for someone else, maybe even acting on it.

That's a major plot point in Catching Fire, actually! Keeping up the appearances will have political and vital ramifications...

Re: Hunger Games movie

(Anonymous) 2013-03-06 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Spoiler for the first book

Haymitch's story is detailed in the second book, Catching Fire (I think the film is supposed to be out in November). Rue's story, not so much, though we do get to see her family.

I'm with you on Peeta, to the end I thought he would turn on Katniss and he didn't. He loves her, but at the same time, he's a born politician. All in all, I thought he was rather bland and I couldn't sympathise with him at all, or relate with him. He could have been a young Haymitch, but Haymitch is more like Katniss is many ways. He's incredibly cunning and he is a survivor.

The second book actually introduces many new characters and takes up after the end of the first book, dealing with the aftermath in many different ways. There *is* a love triangle, but I thought that Katniss's main preoccupation was staying alive. They might play it up for the movie, though.

That reminds me, someone asked the actress who plays Prim if she were Team Gale or Team Peeta, she said she was Team Katniss because the film was about Katniss sacrificing herself to keep her sister alive and fighting to get back to her. You go, girl!
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Re: Hunger Games movie

[personal profile] leisuretime 2013-03-06 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
OK, that Team Katniss thing is so sweet, and so true.
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Re: Hunger Games movie

[personal profile] landsealiontamer 2013-03-06 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
As others have said, Haymitch gets more focus in the second book, where they talk about his time in the games. He's one of my top 3 favourite characters (though I think he was horribly miscast in the film, UGH) so I really hope the second film shows flashbacks to Haymitch in the games.

And I'm pretty much with on the Peeta thing. He's just not a character a care about, really. He got more interesting in the third book, but only mildly. I keep thinking I'd have preferred the series if he'd just died in the games. Whoops.

Re: Hunger Games movie

(Anonymous) 2013-03-06 11:23 am (UTC)(link)
Don't worry, you're gonna get a WHOLE lot of Haymitch in book 2.

I don't like Peeta either...or Gale. both men were means to an end in the storybut I didn't particularly have strong feelings for either of them. Katniss I could get behind!

Don't worry about the love triangle, it's not as love triangly as it was made out. I was pretty pleased with it considering I wasn't keen on either guys.

...don't read book 3's epilogue. just...don't. I get the meaning behind it but urgh.