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⌈ Secret Post #2257 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Jessica Alba]

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13. [SPOILERS for A Song of Ice and Fire]

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14. [SPOILERS for Supernatural]

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15. [SPOILERS for Brave, Wreck-It Ralph]

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17. [WARNING for suicide, self harm]

[My Mad Fat Diary]

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[Far Cry 3]

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19. [WARNING for self harm and sexual abuse]

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With regards to Arcee: I agree it's a screwed up situation and Furman is either incredibly twisted or didn't think things through. However, the current writers and EIC have nothing to do with her existence. They can't change that, and Tranformers, for all its various continuities, is not well-known for ret-conning WITHIN a continuity. Roberts doesn't think any other femmebots exist. Barber hasn't weighed in. The most they could have done is killed Arcee off and that would have also caused a shitstorm of wank.

I'm not sure where you're seeing the block with your "mech/mech that doesn't seem a big deal" request. It exists. Chromedome admitted on-page that he was probably going to off himself if Rewind died in twelve (eg: "you saved two lives today"). Nobody on the ship seems particularly surprised or shocked by them. A few comments, yeah, but no more than you'd get with a group anywhere. People don't ignore relationship gay or straight. But nobody has judged them or found them strange. You have EXACTLY what you want, and you're complaining. And that confuses the hell out of me. There's a giant cast on a ship having wacky, crazy adventures and Chromedome/Rewind have received considerable panel time. Giving them more would only serve to derail the plot.

As for deaths: The story wouldn't be as gripping without the very real fear of death. I was a goddam wreck after the preview for 12 came out, my fandom self running frenzied laps around my brain all day until I was able to get to the comic shop. I would cry IRL for a handful of the Lost Light crew, and be legitimately saddened by the death of many. Several others I kind of want to die or be maimed horribly. I CARE about these characters. Deeply. So while the idea that they can die worries me, it also means that Roberts has done something special: Made characters that are genuinely worth caring about. And after that ass Costa and his insistence that nobody can actually understand Cybertronians? I'll take the fear of them dying...

There are things to hate, sure. I pretty much hate every panel of RID right now, tbh. I DON'T like the Arcee thing but I don't see how it's a reason to loathe the entire universal stream when it was something one writer decided on and not a feature of the entire continuity. I would prefer to not see my favorite characters die, but as someone up there said it's a war comic turned social unrest/horror comic. People are going to die. You said you wanted a comic that "wasn't for the kids" in terms of relationships, and you can't cherrypick and say you want relationships but not death. They both exist in reality, even reality of giant robots.

I don't see why people are getting upset because I don't like the comics. Again, I have no power as to whether they continue or not, so let me have my opinion.
Furman did do the whole Arcee thing, but they really need to do *something* to remedy it. If they don't want to retcon, then at least bring in other femme characters. I'm sure they can come up with a way to introduce them.
I'm looking at the bigger picture when referencing Chromedome/Rewind. With them I saw a chance for the writers to say 'yes, these two mechs are the human equivalent of romantically involved, no one around them thinks there is anything out of the ordinary and neither should the readers'. Again, I've read the vitriol from fanbois who ranged from 'they are just friends' to 'ugh I hope Chromedome dies now'. But if the writers don't want to make any kind of social stand via their comics, that is their choice.
I find characters deaths, or even the threat of deaths, to be poor writing. It creates either artificial sadness or anxiety in the reader. Writers should be able to keep a storyline for each character going and not kill them off when either they don't know where to go with the character or they want instant drama.

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Wait. What. So. You want adult themes, but you don't. I had to be that bitch, but go read fanfiction if you want full outted and explored physical relationships between the robots without the risk of death.

I mean. It's a war. Fundamentally, Transformers was set up around the direct concept of two warring factions (of toys). If no one died, it would just be ridiculous. How is it lazy writing to have the threat of actual death exist during combat? Do you even know what you're saying?

Also, you can have your opinion. But are you also seriously getting angry that anyone is saying things about your opinion when you went through the trouble of making it into a graphic and submitting it to a massive fandom site? If you want to scream your opinion without anyone saying anything to you about it, then scream into an empty cave to make yourself feel great. It sounds more like you only want agreement.

Just FYI, adding in more femmes would also be problematic if they were more created in the same way that Arcee was created. It would still be artificial. They could probably just ignore that the femmes were artificially created for this continuity and go with a more natural approach, but these writers seem to be at least attempting to pay attention to what's been set up. So I doubt that they're going to change anything massively. I find Arcee interesting and can also admit that it's a socially problematic concept.

As to relationships, comics are traditionally pretty progressive, but they have their limits. The censors don't work the same, but I doubt writers are going to all out risk their jobs by writing in a robot make out scene. This is their job. Their job is to sell comics. I'm pretty glad that Roberts actually sees them as individual characters and does give them human inspired reasoning rather than the guy we had before who hated the whole thing. Not to mention the movies. Just having them as close in a relationship the way they are now is slapping the bee hive in a great way, all things considered. And sorry, but the fanboys for Transformers would try to explain away the homo even if Roberts managed to somehow publish an entire porno issue.

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