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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-03-11 06:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #2260 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2260 ⌋

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Re: NTR

(Anonymous) 2013-03-12 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
NTR is cuckold stuff, right? Except Japanese?

Yeah it's not a great thing, I don't think. It just comes from such a weird psychological place, and also such an obvious one. Like, if you look at cuckold fetish stuff, the emphasis that it tends to place on the emasculation felt by the man, and the sexual power and energy and manliness of the interloper, it's just a really weird, weird place to go. It just feels gross. I've read a certain amount of it because there are elements that recur within it in a tangential way that work for me but it's just such a nasty, paranoid worldview to immerse yourself in that I honestly feel kind of bad about myself after I read it (and I don't read it anymore because of that).

Re: NTR

(Anonymous) 2013-03-12 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
I think it comes from an unusual cultural place.

I've noticed a lot of Sports Manga, and more general cultural ideas in Japan reflect a belief of the inherent physical superiority of European and Black men. That they're just naturally bigger, faster, and stronger, which can only be overcome by the brilliant Japanese training or mind.

It's part of that isolationist arrogance coming up against insecurities about being emasculated compared to the wider world.

Re: NTR

(Anonymous) 2013-03-12 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
That exact same meme happens (well, it tends to be more specific to black men rather than Europeans for obvious reasons, but still) in Western cuckold fetish stuff, too. And the idea that Africans are more powerful and strong and hence sexually desirable is definitely not specific to Japan - it's pretty widepspread and has been around a while. I mean, that's a large part of the reason for the stereotype about black men having larger penises. I don't think it's about isolationism and the wider world and I don't think it's specific to Japan.

Frantz Fanon talks about this in Black Skin White Mask and I think his explanation for it has a lot of merit - that a lot of people have this idea that there's something weak about being civilized, that they believe there's some kind of opposition between intelligence and physical force, and so because they tend to see Africans (and in Japan Africans and Westerners) as less civilized and intelligent and refined, they must have a corresponding increase in strength and vitality, some kind of connection to primal nature. And then that gets hooked into a whole sexual thing pretty easily and there you go. It is about insecurity but not specifically about isolationism, I don't think.