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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-03-16 03:16 pm

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fenm: Fish Eye from "Sailor Moon SuperS" (Default)

[personal profile] fenm 2013-03-16 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
But this just means that they don't really... follow ACD.

How does this still surprise people? Both ASiB and THoB varied WILDLY from the source material.
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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-03-16 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Ay, dunno. Both Elementary and Sherlock fans claim the shows to be faithful to the canon, but...
just
where
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[personal profile] fenm 2013-03-16 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
There are Elementary fans who claim that? Really? Woooow...

I mean, Sherlock has done adaptations (very, VERY loose adaptations) of canon stories, so I get where that claim comes from, but Elementary?
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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-03-16 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, not in this sense. Apparently they mean Holmes' and Watson's characters, their relationship and whatnot.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-17 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Not true for Sherlock anyway. Dunno about Elementary.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-17 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
i've seen people on ontd claim that elementary is even more faithful to canon than sherlock.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-16 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think either shows can really be described as faithful adaptations no matter what the fans say. Neither can the Guy Ritchie Sherlock Holmes movies but I don't think anyone has ever claimed them to. But Sherlock and Elementary are in the same boat as that. They all have two main characters called Holmes and Watson, one who's a detective and one who was/is a doctor and they solve crimes together.

From there they branch off into their own little genres and stories.

BBC Sherlock's A Study In Pink probably came the closest to actually adapting a ACD Sherlock Holmes story, just giving it a modern setting, up until the reveal of the cabbie being the murderer and then it went its own way. Nothing from after that has really been as close, just loosely based or inspired from canon stories.

Granada is the only Sherlock Holmes series I know of that can claim to be a faithful adaptation. Doesn't mean the other shows aren't good in their own way though, same for the Basil Rathbone movies.
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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-03-16 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Russian!Holmes is also quite canon-like. And The Sign of Four with Richardson, if we go for movies.

Btw, it probably makes me less of a fan, but I've never been able to make myself watch the Rathbone movies. The Watson of Nigel Bruce just makes me laugh so hard I cannot continue.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-17 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
He's not so bad in the very first one. It was only after that that Universal plugged the comic relief aspect. Pity, as Rathbone is rather good. Not as good as Brett, though.
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[personal profile] badass_tiger 2013-03-17 05:44 am (UTC)(link)
negl, I had so many doubts about Sherlock when I first started watching it, but the unaired pilot (which I watched first) really impressed me. Then I watched Pink and was kind of disappointed, Moriarty is really overdone in adaptations imo. I continued watching only for the ho yay, I don't like it as a Sherlock Holmes adaptation at all.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-17 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
"But this just means that they don't really... follow ACD"

They're on the record now as saying they based it more on the adaptation with Basil Rathbone, instead of the books. But in the initial press they were all "We are SOOOOO Canon we lived for Canon" etc. etc.

It's the bait-and-switch that ticked me off, more than any injustices they did to the source material.