[ SECRET POST #2267 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2267 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

We had pretty horrible coffee culture before 1989 - most of our coffee was made from overroasted coffee beans. Then after the revolution we started learning about good coffee - a lot of Italians came here and introduced good coffee and pizza. After 2000 places like Starbucks started to show up and they just can't get popular. There are some in really big cities and in airports, but the regular person never goes there. We can have far better coffee than that for half a price.

But I guess it has to be popular in the US because of the horrible weak coffee they drink.

[(Anonymous)]

Like everything else, you can get really exceptionally good coffee in parts of the US, just not everywhere. If you're in a major metropolitan area, especially a particularly liberal one, you're going to have great coffee - New York, Seattle obviously, San Francisco, LA, Chicago, places like that. Then in the suburbs and smaller cities, yeah, you're going to have shit coffee.

Starbucks' popularity does not exist because people think they make particularly good coffee, though. Their popularity comes, first, from standardization - the idea that all chains leverage that you know what you're getting - and second from the fact that they let you make big, heavily-adulterated coffee drinks, and allow you to get extremely detailed in how you want it made, so that you can be precise for whatever preference you have. So if you want, I don't know, a double skinny mocha latte with caramel, or whatever dumb thing, you can have it. So it's built around making mild-flavored, warm coffee drinks, in a consistent, customizable, and quick way, that are available ubiquitously. It's orthogonal to coffee quality. If you're a person who cares about coffee quality in the US, and you live in a major metropolitan area, you can also have better coffee for cheaper. People who go to Starbucks are interested in something completely different.