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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-03-23 03:35 pm

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Adria Tech Blog Thing

(Anonymous) 2013-03-23 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Anyone following this?

Two men at a tech conference make juvenile jokes about dongle = penis.

PR woman tweets about it to her thousands of followers with a picture of them.

They get fired, and apologise at which point she lectures them.

Internet hate machine kicks into gear and starts DDOSing the website of the company she was representing, and making uncountable misogynistic remarks. She gets fired for the unprofessional way she acted.

Re: Adria Tech Blog Thing

(Anonymous) 2013-03-23 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
No, not following it. What are we calling it, Asshats All Around?
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Re: Adria Tech Blog Thing

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-03-23 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm glad this had a happy ending.
Edited 2013-03-23 22:10 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2013-03-23 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I read two posts about this before I got really sad and tired

I don't know if she handled it perfectly. I think the level of hate towards her is ridiculous and it's obvious that if a man in tech did something similar there wouldn't be nearly this number of opinions about whether he expressed his offense in an acceptable way.

Re: Adria Tech Blog Thing

(Anonymous) 2013-03-23 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
It's all dumb. Nobody should have ever been fired. Nobody wins in this story and it's just all so much stupid.
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Re: Adria Tech Blog Thing

[personal profile] morieris 2013-03-23 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not. Slinging slurs at her is not okay, but I can't comment further.

Re: Adria Tech Blog Thing

(Anonymous) 2013-03-23 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's sadly inevitable that when something shitty happens and a woman complains about it, the woman is likely to get just as much backlash (and usually more) than the people responsible for the shitty thing in the first place. Seriously, this happens so often it's a depressing cliche.

Maybe she didn't handle it perfectly. But it's so damn typical to dismiss or try to discredit a woman's complaint because she didn't make it in THE EXACT PERFECT WAY, which hint hint, doesn't exist.

Re: Adria Tech Blog Thing

(Anonymous) 2013-03-23 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a difference between something being not the exact perfect way, and being an unbelievably passive aggressive childish way which gets people fired.

But it's a shame that inevitably people will come out of the woodwork to defend a woman's actions just because she got an indefensible reaction, rather then pointing out they're both awful.

Re: Adria Tech Blog Thing

(Anonymous) 2013-03-23 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't understand why they got fired. Maybe I would if I saw exactly what they said? Was it sexual harassment? I mean, stupid seventh-grade penis jokes just don't seem fire-worthy.

Re: Adria Tech Blog Thing

(Anonymous) 2013-03-23 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
From her tweet "Jokes about forking repo's in a sexual way, and "big" dongles".

Which is juvenile, but barely passes muster as sexist unless we're saying anything lewd is automatically misogynistic.

Except, as she wells knows given her role, anything that draws undue negative attention to a company, and has the risk of exploding, runs the risk of getting people fired, and there's plenty that could be going on behind the scenes meaning someone might just be looking to fire the individuals in the first place.

Re: Adria Tech Blog Thing

(Anonymous) 2013-03-23 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Frankly, I don't blame her boss.

I know i wouldn't want this person anywhere near my business after she did something like this. This is the opposite of what a PR person is supposed to do.

Re: Adria Tech Blog Thing

(Anonymous) 2013-03-24 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
So she shouldn't have done it, but that doesn't mean the people who fired them are absolved of all blame.

Re: Adria Tech Blog Thing

(Anonymous) 2013-03-24 05:38 am (UTC)(link)
What a perfect example of what the previous anon was talking about. How dare she out someone who was acting like an idiot! Why, she should've just blah blah blah, etc. etc.
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Re: Adria Tech Blog Thing

[personal profile] elialshadowpine 2013-03-24 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
I've been sorta following it.

I have mixed feelings. I don't think that tweeting pictures of people without their permission is appropriate, however, I'm aghast at the amount of hate that she's gotten. If she were a guy, there would be some amount of outrage still but I don't think nearly as much. She might still have gotten fired, but I doubt very much that she'd be getting threats and DDOS attacks if she were a guy.