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⌈ Secret Post #2272 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Moves you loved, that everyone else laughed at.

[(Anonymous)]

...all of the reasons you're giving are either subjective or the reasons why I liked the new trilogy. I find political-heavy stories interesting, Star Wars has never been about the characters to me as much as the world (which is a good thing, because frankly Luke in the old trilogy is the character equivalent of a choose your own adventure book), I loved the action scenes.

I'll grant you that there's too much CGI in general, but that's hardly a problem exclusive to these movies. Overall, I think the people who argue that these movies failed as stories period don't have a leg to stand on; fair enough if they weren't for you, but they were pretty solidly enjoyable for me.

Re: Moves you loved, that everyone else laughed at.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

I don't think the politics works that well, in the Phantom Menace at least. I love some good intrigue, but there isn't much there there in Phantom Menace, unless you don't know that Palpatine is a baddie to start with. Besides the Palpatine stuff, it's pretty much just "One side is bad. They invade a planet. The good guys have to stop them." Which isn't a bad plot, but it isn't particularly intriguing or novel, either.

A simple plot wouldn't be bad in itself; A New Hope wasn't exactly rocket scientist. But on top of that plot, Phantom Menace piles a whole bunch of stuff, first about Gungans (which we're never given a particularly good reason for caring about) and then about Tatooine and Anakin. And the sum total of the relevance of Tatooine and Anakin to the nominal main plot about Naboo is: "The good guys get a new ship on Tatooine so that they can go on to Coruscant like they originally meant to." That's it. But the movie spends a ton of time on Tatooine, setting up an incredibly convoluted bet on a lengthy podrace, so that they can get to that point and pick up Anakin - and then they have to deal with Anakin, which is one of the main points of the movie from the perspective of the series as a whole, but which doesn't have anything to do with the Naboo storyline. And I think that's really a major failure for the movie - its central plots don't really work, because they have nothing to do with each other, and while one is on screen, the other is just kind of languishing. They interfere with each other. That's not successful to me.

All the rest of it is, I'll grant you, subjective. Personally, I don't think the action scenes were any good, or the cinematography, or any of it. If you liked the action scenes, that's not a preference I understand. But, as I said somewhere else in this thread, if you enjoyed the movies, more power to you.

(In passing: I think Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith work somewhat better in terms of their plots, but are still quite bad in terms of dialogue and acting, especially Attack of the Clones. Revenge of the Sith isn't great but it's the best of the prequels)