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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-03-24 03:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #2273 ]


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Re: Essentialist

(Anonymous) 2013-03-24 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Valuing certain traits because of their usefulness to society (or whatever) versus valuing traits because it's assumed that most/all men embody these traits and that women need to take them on as well in order to overcome their "natural" feminine traits.

At least, that's what I'm getting out of it. Valuing something for what it is rather than for what it stands for or implies.
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Re: Essentialist

[personal profile] ill_omened 2013-03-24 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
This seems to be putting the cart before the horse here.

Surely we ascribe 'valuable' traits to masculinity because of teh patriarchy, rather then valuing traits because they're masculine?

(it's a lot more complicated I suppose, but that's I imagine the central thrust)
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Re: Essentialist

[personal profile] bigredhug 2013-03-24 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I dunno dude, a lot of traditionally female things like furthering the species and raising offspring and making sure the house isn't on fire are pretty valuable.
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Re: Essentialist

[personal profile] ill_omened 2013-03-24 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
They're valuable socially, not as an individual actor, which overall in the west we glorify.

Really I should change valuable there to traits society respects in an individual because it empowers them over their peers.