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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-03-24 03:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #2273 ]


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dreemyweird: (Default)

Re: Fellow Libruls

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-03-24 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Umm I'm not sure I understand what's going on in the third one. Are Liberals blamed for making people donate their organs? The pianist argument? Googling gives nothing.
aubry: (Adorable Fatty)

Re: Fellow Libruls

[personal profile] aubry 2013-03-24 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
No idea what the pianist argument is. But the organ donor thing is a thought experiment to try to get opponents of abortion to start thinking in terms of bodily autonomy.

Basically any metaphor for abortion is going to fall short, because there just isn't any other biological situation analagous to reproduction. But the question of whether or not you would ever mandate that any person donate an organ to save the life another person is a common rhetorical device in the abortion debate to make people focus on the question of mandatory pregnancy instead of when life starts or whose life is worth more (the terms of debate often favoured by the anti-abortion side).
insanenoodlyguy: (Default)

Re: Fellow Libruls

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-03-25 08:05 am (UTC)(link)
I always found this argument lousy because I think you should be forced to donate your organs. Women making choices about their bodies are alive. But these selfish motherfuckers, they are dead. Give em up.
Edited 2013-03-25 08:06 (UTC)

Re: Fellow Libruls

(Anonymous) 2013-03-25 02:49 pm (UTC)(link)
p sure the argument is based not on post-mortem organ donation but on a scenario like robert silverberg's short story "caught in the organ draft"--in which it's been determined that society has an interest in prolonging the lives of its most creative and productive individuals by requiring living people to give up their "non-essential" organs.

i actually find your argument lousy because millions of people cannot trust medical personnel to prioritize saving their lives over salvaging their organs for the use of others
itstopped: (Default)

Re: Fellow Libruls

[personal profile] itstopped 2013-03-25 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
The pianist argument is also a thought experiment: if a world-famous pianist (or whatever) was going to die unless you and only you allowed them to be parasitically grafted onto you, would it be your moral obligation to do so? I think that's it, at least.