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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-03-24 03:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #2273 ]


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Re: Fellow Libruls

(Anonymous) 2013-03-24 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
If valuing peoples ability to live life unencumbered as long as it doesn't leave the weak at the mercy of the strong or send the country down the crapper isn't an enforcement of morality, what is it?

All legislation is based in moral belief yo, even if it is a utilitarian calculus.

Re: Fellow Libruls

(Anonymous) 2013-03-24 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Yeah, of course there's some moral belief involved, but the fact that it's based on some moral belief doesn't magically make it okay to impose moral belief onto everything. There are common sense lines to be drawn.

Now, common sense is pretty debated, but that doesn't make it any less valid. Just because not everyone knows or agrees with what the common-sense decision is, doesn't mean it doesn't exist or that people can't eventually find it. We've done it before: we've decided it was common sense to let women vote, outlaw slavery, etc. Those things used to be debatable, but they're not debatable anymore because we know more and understand things better now than we did a hundred or two hundred years ago.

There's nothing wrong with an erroneous moral belief -- how are you supposed to find out it's wrong without testing it? But the best way to do the least damage with these erroneous moral beliefs before you realize "oh, that's actually rubbish" is to not be too overzealous in imposing them all over people who disagree with you unless you're faced with obvious or short-term consequences, in which case imposing moral beliefs that may be wrong because they have non-obvious or long-term consequences but which solve obvious short-term is pretty much just the best available course of action.