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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-03-24 03:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #2273 ]


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Re: Fellow Libruls

(Anonymous) 2013-03-24 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
The second one is for when people say they support abortion in the case of rape or incest, but don't support it in the case of consensual sex. Since the outcome is the same - termination of a fetus - they're putting value on the method of conception.

Basically, they're using the argument that the fetus has a right to live, but not if it was conceived via non-consensual situations. The fetus has nothing to do with HOW it's conceived, so there's a double-standard in that they support abortion in some cases but not others, and it's more specifically attacking women who choose to have consensual sex and become pregnant from that. If they were raped and became pregnant, then abortion becomes permissible, regardless of the outcome to the fetus.
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Re: Fellow Libruls

[personal profile] itstopped 2013-03-25 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I actually agree with this and don't get why it's a flawed argument. I have a lot more respect for pro-lifers who are anti-exception than I do for pro-lifers who are also pro-exception, because I don't understand how that's morally justifiable at all.

Re: Fellow Libruls

(Anonymous) 2013-03-25 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
Some people (I used to be one of them) have a moral hierarchy that goes like:

Requiring someone who had consensual sex to give birth is less immoral than terminating a fetus is less immoral than requiring someone who is already suffering from the trauma of rape to give birth. From that position, abortion of a rape pregnancy is still wrong, but should be legally permissible as should killing in self-defense.

I don't subscribe to that standpoint at all anymore, but I think it's different from using abortion politics as punishment for choosing to have sex.