[ F!S Friending Meme XIII ]

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F!S Friending Meme XIII

Name @ LJ/DW: (if applicable)
Name/Handle:
Age/Location:
Fandoms:
What in fandom interests me:
What in fandom does NOT interest me:
Major Non-fandom Interests:
My LJ/DW Contains Mostly:
Other: (If you want to link pictures or something, do it here)

Everything is 100% optional, of course.

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Easy copy-paste:

<b>Name @ LJ/DW:</b> (if applicable) <b>Name/Handle:</b> <b>Age/Location:</b> <b>Fandoms:</b> <b>What in fandom interests me:</b> <b>What in fandom does NOT interest me:</b> <b>Major Non-fandom Interests:</b> <b>My LJ/DW Contains Mostly:</b> <b>Other:</b>


Regular post for today (#2273) is right below this one!

Comments

[making_excuses]

You wanna be my friend? I love Shameless US, and I don't hate Karen! And I am in a desperate need of someone to talk Shameless with me!

[torturedartist]

Yes, totally. I can never talk about Shameless enough. And not a karen hater dude, you are like a unicorn.

[making_excuses]

Awesome! Nah I don't hate her, I don't hate any Shameless character, well except Terry Milkovich, but then again that is pretty justified.

I don't exactly agree with all of Karen choices, but living in an environment like hers, you do what you gotta do to survive. You don't think of others.

[torturedartist]

I think i'm in the same boat. i don't really hate any character but Terry, and yeah, completely justified. That man is horrible. I think frank's saving grace is that a lot of his scenes are amusing. And he's a horrible person, but not nearly at the level of Terry Milkovich.

I don't agree with Karen's choices either but she obviously suffered emotional abuse at the hands of her father, and she was clearly going through post traumatic depression when she had her child, which I hear is common in teenage mothers. She's a bad person, but I don't think this show is here for us to judge them on the basis of good and bad. All of these character have bad spots, which is probably the most realistic thing about shameless.

[making_excuses]

Terry is evil. Frank is a bastard and all, but he does not try to be anything else either. And like everyone else on the show he does what he have to do.

What things do they judge her for? I only follow Ian/Mickey stuff on tumblr. and that is all of my Shameless US fandom activity really.

I love both the fact that the characters are flawless, the way they handle homosexuality and also the fact that as someone who live(d) the life they live on Shameless, it is pretty realistic.

Which if you haven't lived like them you might not get why the characters (under)react or behave in a way that isn't normal so to speak. Which is why I avoid the fandom as a whole really, because a lot of the reactions I've seen have been reactions I don't agree with. Which does in no way shape or form mean that I think people shouldn't be allowed to think the way they do, I just don't agree with them.

[torturedartist]

I usually only follow Ian/mickey stuff on tumblr too, but after each episode I usually go into the shameless tag. There just seems to be a lot of slut shaming when it comes to Karen, and a lot of people call her a bitch. But c'mon now, Mandy's the one who wanted her brother's to beat Ian up because he didn't want to have sex with her and Lip has been a dick to Mandy and Fiona for the last two seasons. Karen isn't the only bitch on the show. They're all bitches and that's great as far as i'm concerned.

I love how the show portrays homosexuality. I think Shameless has done more positive things for homosexuality in one season than Glee has done in four. And it's just because they take a realistic look at it. Not everything is cut from the same cloth and you get to see how two very different people react to being gay in very different ways.

See, to make this message longer lol, I live in Illinois (I heard people actually insulting the characters for saying pop instead of soda dude, but that's what we call it in illinois) but I also live on the less than wealthy side of things. So the characters make perfect sense to me. I can feel Fiona's helplessness, and I can understand why the characters keep making bank in temporary and illegal ways because with poverty there's this helplessness to it too. You have no need to raise up from your current position because it's daunting and it feels imaginary to you. And the majority of the characters are children and when you're a child, everything feels important, everything feels like the end of the world to you and when things feel that important, you do less than wise things in response to them.

[making_excuses]

Why would they only slut shame Karen? Fiona had sex with Steve/Jimmy after knowing him for an hour or so, and as you said Mandy is far from perfect. I love the fact that they don't take sex to mean love, because again that is how I grew up thinking of it.

Ii is quite realistic indeed, and none of the gay characters are stereotypes. I just love how Ian's personality is ROTC, High School student, brother and so on, and also Gay, not gay first then the rest. I stopped watching Glee and some of the reason was how they portrait homosexuality.

I agree with everything you said in the last paragraph! And also, I know how it is to be in quite a few of their situations, you do what you have to do.