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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-09-10 04:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #248 ]


⌈ Secret Post #248 ⌋

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[identity profile] playingly.livejournal.com 2007-09-11 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
29. You know, I think it really depends on the person. Being a FanArtist myself, and knowing other FanArtists, slapping watermarks on can be a good thing. Especially when you're a popular artist. People will post your art everywhere claiming it as their own, even with some sort of watermark on it. Artists spend hours drawing those, you'd think people would have the decency to credit the artist for drawing it. No, they didn't create the character, but they did draw the picture, and usually they make it look different from the original design. They deserve some credit.

I can't stand it when iconists or web designers use FanArts without permission or credit. It's not official art -- you can't just gank it and post it everywhere. Or use it in your graphics without permission. I always ask permission when I use FanArt in icons or layout. It's called common courtesy. It really isn't that fucking hard to e-mail the artist and ask for permission. They usually say yes anyway.

Sorry for teh rant, but I hate it when iconists bitch about about using FanArt. 4Chan or deviantART didn't draw it, someone else did and they're not being credited. It's just immature and crude.

(Anonymous) 2007-09-11 11:26 am (UTC)(link)
29's OP here – I'm not an iconist, thnxverymuch. I'm a fanartist (or FanArtist? We are special enough we deserve caps? This is news to me). And in my fandom, actually a pretty popular one. My stuff gets posted around quite a bit, with and without credit. And I don't care one way or the other.

I draw fanart because I enjoy drawing fanart. I post fanart because I know other people like to look at it – for other people to enjoy. How they go about enjoying it, I don't much care. They can print it out and stick it on their stuff, they can post it to share with more people, they can make it into icons – whatever! Sure, credit is nice, but I don't think that, where fanart is concerned, it's necessary to the point at which a lot of people make it out to be. It just irritates me to see how worked up a lot of people get about people POSTING THEIR FANART WITHOUT PERMISSION ON GAIA OR 4CHAN OMFG HOW DARE THEY?!?!

(Anonymous) 2007-09-11 02:58 pm (UTC)(link)
tell me how it's different from someone posting fanfic without permission and with the names taken off?

(Anonymous) 2007-09-11 03:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I never said it was. Why, am I supposed to think that's awful too? I think the differences are probably just that fanfiction theft happens less often – I mean, with fanart, loads of people will have saved a folder full of fanart or whatever, whereas with fic people are more likely to just bookmark the page, so if they want to share some fanart with someone, they'll end up uploading it to their own folder, whereas if they read a fic that they think is really great, they'll typically give someone else the link ... and when it comes to theft, it's easier to just copy and paste the bits of fic you want to steal than it is with artwork, so it's harder to tell when that's happened and to prove it.

I'm not saying it's okay to claim someone else's fanworks are your own. I'm saying that people get too worked up about it when it happens. And I'm saying there isn't anything inherently wrong with posting fanworks without crediting the original creator of the fanwork. That said, if someone makes it public that they don't want people posting their stuff without permission or credit, then it's only manners to do as they ask, if you like their art – but that doesn't mean I can't think that requests like that are kind of dumb and that people need to stop acting like someone intentionally gave their kid sister AIDs every time their fanart gets used in a YouTube slideshow.