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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-09-10 04:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #248 ]


⌈ Secret Post #248 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2007-09-11 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
Oh gods.

Fanartists sometimes spend hours working and drawing art, and if they're popular, as said before, people will take their work and claim it as their own sometimes. Copying might be the highest form of flattery, but that doesn't mean people like it. It's still their fucking work. Taking it and claiming it as your own/not giving credit is still art theft. If someone took an essay (let's say it was for fandom's sake since fanart apparently means you're just a fucking means) some other person wrote and claimed it as their own, isn't that plagarism? If it was your essay, which you poured time and effort into, and someone comes along, steals all the work you did by claiming it as their own, wouldn't you feel wronged? Some people would actually fucking like for their work to be credited. Do you know why Japanese artists get pissed off when people post fanart without a link back? They'd like for the people to know that it was THEM. It doesn't matter if the person posting doesn't claim it as their's. It matters that it's not being credited. It's not a fucking cardinal sin, but sometimes it's just plain rude. Doesn't mean EVERYONE is like that, some people do take courtesy into consideration and say that they forgot the original artist and would like to know who it was so that they can credit. At least they're showing concern so that they can be open to the idea, not just forgetting it.

If you feel like using a fanart, asking is common courtesy, don't you think?

Watermarks don't stop theft, but it can be a blaring sign sometimes that it was stolen. Huge watermarks aren't in 72pt font Arial stamped across the entire fanart; they're usually in low opacity, and if they're big, the artist at least has a reason for it.

What's so wrong with wanting credit? I can say otherwise to popularity, but if someone spends time to draw something, what's so bad about wanting people to know that you're the one who drew it? Shouldn't you at least have a claim on the fanart you did? Stop the stupid mass of people who think stealing artwork is funny as shit?

You say you're a fanartist, you should know.

So fuck off.

In before the loling mass and serious business.

Re: 29

(Anonymous) 2007-09-11 06:58 am (UTC)(link)
You say you're a fanartist, you should know.

The OP may be a fan artist, but s/he doesn't necessarily have the skills to produce art worth stealing... Just saying.

Re: 29

(Anonymous) 2007-09-11 11:32 am (UTC)(link)
Nope. I'm not the best ever, but dude, I know I don't suck.

Re: 29

(Anonymous) 2007-09-11 10:04 am (UTC)(link)
I think fanart can be a very different thing for different artists.

I don't mean for that to excuse the blanket "ur a tool because you do this" statements, but... you know.

Re: 29

(Anonymous) 2007-09-11 11:48 am (UTC)(link)
OP here.

I'm not saying people shouldn't be polite. I'm not saying if a fanartist says that they don't want people posting their art without their permission, people should go out and make banners and icons of their work with no credit just to spite them. Whether fanartists or not, if we like someone's art, we should do them the favour of complying with what they ask when it comes to the use and distribution of their work. But that doesn't mean I can't think that what they ask is often kind of dumb.

What I'm saying is that I think it's totally fucktarded for people to get so worked up about the idea of their fanart being shared by another fan without saying whose it is to the extent that they feel the need to put huge-ass watermarks on stuff that they have no legal claim to own. I think watermarks often detract from a picture, even if they are transparent and relatively unobtrusive, and I personally would rather have a bunch of retards on some forum somewhere claiming they drew my stuff than be posting my drawings with the URL to my site right across them.

Yeah, I'm a fanartist. And when I draw fanart, I draw it because I like drawing the characters, and I post it because I like that other people like it. If they want to go share it with more people, that's fine by me. If they want to claim they drew it, then more fool them, but it's not like they're doing me any harm. Credit is nice, but I seriously do not care if people ask me or not, and if people don't credit me, I'm not going to scream blue murder at them until they say they're sorry. Yes, I think it's nice to the people you're sharing it with to give credit to the artist, because that way if they like it, they can find more, but I think that the majority of artists who get pissy about the fact that somebody used their art on a YouTube slideshow AMV without linking back to their deviantart are just butthurt that they missed out on some pageviews.

unf unf!

(Anonymous) 2007-09-11 12:08 pm (UTC)(link)
♥ ♥ ♥

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[identity profile] dorknessrising.livejournal.com 2007-09-11 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)
...I think I love you.

I'm a fanartist (http://rachelthedemon.deviantart.com), too, and I'm the exact same way. If someone ever thought my work was good enough to steal, I'd be flattered as hell. I don't draw for credit or recognition; I draw because -- get this! -- I like drawing. And I like sharing it with other people.

I'm the same way about my icons. Credit is nice, but it's optional. I don't really care if people use my icons sans credit; the fact they liked them enough to use them makes me feel all fuzzy inside.

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(Anonymous) 2007-09-11 11:53 am (UTC)(link)
What the fuck is this? Fandom wank? Take your bullshit somewhere else.

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(Anonymous) 2007-09-11 03:01 pm (UTC)(link)
which could be said about a majority of the people who post secrets and reply to them.

try again, plz.

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(Anonymous) 2007-09-12 10:59 am (UTC)(link)
There's replying, and then there's telling someone to fucking fuck off, you fucker!