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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-03-25 06:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #2274 ]


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Re: I don't understand all the hate

(Anonymous) 2013-03-26 05:48 am (UTC)(link)
Yes.

The police should use their powers to harass these people because they are saying something that you do not agree with.

Good policy.

(I'm not denying that the person's views are wrong and deeply harmful. And certainly the proprietor of the shop or the owner of the property were within their rights to tell her to fuck off. But that's not the same as having the police run them in for whatever minor shit they can find.)

Re: I don't understand all the hate

(Anonymous) 2013-03-26 06:19 am (UTC)(link)
This isn't about viewpoints, it's about scientific fact. The misinformation she, and others like her, spread has the potential to facilitate health epidemics. It amounts to biomedical terrorism. It's because of people like her that the CDC will pour another $34M (average since 2001) this year into campaigns to counteract the fraudulent claims about the MMR vaccine causing autism. That's nearly half a billion dollars just in public awareness campaigns in 13 years. And there was never any truth to Wakefield's claim. Never. Not even a little. He did it because he thought he was on the verge of creating a rival MMR vaccine and he wanted to scare the world into using it.

Re: I don't understand all the hate

(Anonymous) 2013-03-26 06:26 am (UTC)(link)
No, I'm not defending her claim. I agree that it's a wrong claim with no basis in fact and I agree that it's a deeply harmful one, and I've never expressed any opinion to the contrary. We can set aside entirely the question of whether or not her claim is justifiable - it's not - or whether it's harmful - it is. It's a lunatic point of view that's incredibly harmful.

What I'm saying is that her delusional, however harmful, does not merit the use of government force to prevent her from voicing it. It's counterproductive in a lot of ways, but it's also wrong. She may be a loony, but that doesn't mean you can use state powers of coercion to shut her up, as nice as it might be sometimes.

Re: I don't understand all the hate

(Anonymous) 2013-03-26 07:48 am (UTC)(link)
What I'm saying is that her delusional, however harmful, does not merit the use of government force to prevent her from voicing it.

I think it does? Non American but we learned bits about the constitution and government. I understood that if it is something that is harmful then 1st amendment doesn't apply. Wikipedia had this also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exceptions