[ SECRET POST #2283 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2283 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

A little bit, maybe, but mostly not?

I mean, it sounds ridiculous on the face of it, but I do think characters like that can be really, really interesting and I think it would be cool to have more of them and there's a lot of cool things you can do with them, and I think they're worth examining.

But please expound on your feelings either way! Let it all loose.

[cadremage]

Ah, well, thank you for the explanation! I appreciate your perspective.

To me, there's not much of a point to a boring and grey villain, as he or she doesn't pose much of a threat. There's little risk that they'll convince others to go along with their plot, and there's little that they'll do to thwart the heroes. And consequently, there's little to latch onto as a viewer or reader.

I have a feeling that you view the terms differently, however, so I'd be interested to hear more (actually, I'm already starting to envision different scenarios, so that's super cool).

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I think you can have a villain who's boring who's still powerful - that is, the villain's ability to affect the characters is a different thing from their motivation and personality. I think it could be interesting to have a villain who isn't motivated by any strong feelings, either sympathetic ones or simply evil ones. Who simply views what he's doing as necessary but without any real passion about it. Or who simply hasn't thought about it that much, who just accepts the idea that the protagonists are wrong or that he needs to do whatever they need to do or need to oppose - maybe he's just a functionary following orders, maybe he's just not someone who thinks about things much. Maybe they don't need to convince anyone else because they're in an environment in which everyone more or less agrees with the villain already.

And I think you can write a story where any of those characters are interesting and their relationship with the main characters is interesting, and I think that kind of evil is, in a way, interesting in itself. It would be interesting to examine a character who does something really evil without really thinking about it. There's certainly historic precedent about it.