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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-04 06:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #2284 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2284 ⌋

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Re: Well, yes.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-05 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
There's not really anything of value in an argument that denies the perfectly reasonable probability that the human aversion to death has an evolutionary basis simply because humans are capable of a higher level of mental function than other animals.

Re: Well, yes.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-05 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
You haven't established that any evolutionary conditioned behaviour would be towards death specifically. I'll grant you an instinctual fear towards harm, drowning, or heights is probable, but death as a dissolution of self? You're going to need a bit more there.

Re: Well, yes.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-05 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Why on earth would it not be towards death? What sort of advantage would a creature have that is not oriented toward surviving (which involves, well...not dying)? And why are you treating death as something that always has to have some sort of bent philosophical component? Death is a physical thing that happens, regardless whether there's some nebulous higher "self" involved, and it's bad. And none of the fears that you listed would exist if it were not for the fact that avoiding those situations happens to also help one avoid dying.

The part you're getting hung up is the fact that humans have a capacity to philosophize, and so they do. But "philosophizing about death makes evolutionary sense" is not the same as "having an aversion to death makes evolutionary sense."
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Re: Well, yes.

[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-04-05 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, more or less this.

I don't wake up in the morning thinking oh god I'm gonna die I'm gonna die. It doesn't keep me up at night. But I can't say I don't fear it, because... it's death. I don't have existential crises about it but I also keep away from cliffs, watch for traffic and get worried if I'm followed.

I think the anon who originally responded is reading a bit too much into the concept of fear, here. I'm not talking about endless dread. Nothing a psychologist would diagnose as a problem. Just a natural aversion to the end of me.
Edited 2013-04-05 03:27 (UTC)