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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-05 06:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #2285 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2285 ⌋

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[Lindsay Lohan, Sean Penn, Sean Bean]


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(Anonymous) 2013-04-05 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I’m in the middle of a research project about fanfiction (sometimes being a fan in uni is kinda awesome), and I’m interested in how the same kind of stories or themes pop up in a lot of different fandoms, and how it sometimes seems so far from a specific fandom that you end up wondering how people got from canon to their story ideas. I guess you could call it a sort of fanon (more or less) completely independent of canon? The best example I can think of is omega verse, which (to me) seemed to pop up out of nowhere and take over a huge corner of fandom. I was wondering if anyone can think of any other good examples of that happening, since, tbh, omega verse is not my kind of thing at all and I’m not sure I want to delve into it (it would complicate other things I’m trying to say, which is fine but I’d need to spend more time on certain arguments than I think I want to. It’s just such a perfect example that I may have to use it to explain what I want to say).

(Anonymous) 2013-04-05 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the explanation for this is pretty simple (and it's also something that I would consider pretty much absolutely essential to the nature of fan fiction) - fan fiction is a product of and a medium for a specific subculture. So it's not at all surprising that ideas and tropes and themes move across fandoms because it's the same people involved in all of them - because almost any given fandom is made up of people who are within fandom broadly, therefore in many fandoms. No fandom is an island, is what I'm saying - there's all these social connections and there's all these cases where people are members of multiple fandoms and so it happens naturally that something that comes up organically in one fandom transfers to another. Because it's mostly the same people involved in both. That's mostly what fanfiction is. Something produced by fans. As a form it's produced by people within that subculture and that subculture is a subculture and shares both a community and a style of communication and a lot of ideas and sensibilities.

It's pretty obvious really. I think that social / subcultural element is pretty central to the whole concept of fanfiction as it exists - are you going to address that at all in your paper?

(Anonymous) 2013-04-05 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
That's pretty much the basis of my assumptions and arguments, so it is certainly something I will get into with my paper :) I'm in the initial stages at the moment, trying to map the whole thing out, and I'm mainly trying to think of good examples to delve into and explain. It really is quite fascinating, how coherent a subculture fandom is!

(Anonymous) 2013-04-05 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
It absolutely is.

You should look up some of Mary Bucholtz' work, particularly "Why Be Normal? Language and Identity Practices In A Community Of Nerd Girls." It's not about fanfiction, and it's linguistics / sociology rather than literary analysis or whatever, but it's still a great body of work in terms of attempting to define nerds as a subculture and get at some of the characteristics and definitional qualities of what we mean when we say something as a nerd. And I would suspect that there's an extremely substantial overlap between the group that she's examining as "nerds" and online fanfiction communities. Should mostly be up JSTOR.

I think most of the other studies that have looked at this kind of thing have been from an education studies / online literacy perspective, which is kind of unfortunate, since that's not particularly useful for this kind of study.

Good luck to you, though - it's a fascinating topic.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-05 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for the rec! I think I've come across the title before and forgotten about it, but it sounds like it could be very useful.

Yeah, finding materials is an interesting exercise. I'm gathering anything and everything that sounds the slightest bit interesting or relevant.

Thank you :)

(Anonymous) 2013-04-05 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, even if you can't use it, you should still read it, because it's an amazing paper. Just Bucholtz interviewing a bunch of nerdy girls at a high school in California in the early 90s. It's great fun.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-05 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Sounds like it! And the way my paper looks right now I can use anything relevant to subcultures of any kind, if nothing else than for my own pleasure and background reading.

[identity profile] galerian-ash.livejournal.com 2013-04-05 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Though I personally hate them, in the last few years coffee shop AUs have become really popular in a wide variety of fandoms -- everything from Dragon Age to Merlin. Not quite the same thing as that alpha/omega thing, but it'd probably be a lot easier to write a school project about!

(Anonymous) 2013-04-05 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Not just coffee shop AUs, but mundane AUs in general seem to be making great strides in becoming every other fic. Someone mentioned a possible theory in that the high school kids who wrote high school AUs grew up and got jobs, and now they write barista or baking AUs. XD

(Anonymous) 2013-04-05 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
That's actually a really interesting theory, lol - and quite plausible sounding, for that matter.
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[personal profile] making_excuses 2013-04-05 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you implying that Coffee Shop AU's are not awesome! Because you are wrong! I love all the boring mundane AU's, as long as they are well written and reasonably IC...

I might also enjoy High School/College AU's!

...I'll just show myself out


But yeah, it is a trend and I think basically all my fandoms got some.

[identity profile] galerian-ash.livejournal.com 2013-04-05 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep, I am! Mainly 'cause I hate coffee, haha. So reading a whole AU with people hanging out in coffee shops and buying double mocha frapp-something and so on just... NO.

But aside from that particular kind, I also like AUs~
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[personal profile] making_excuses 2013-04-05 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
You are forgiven! Though I don't read Coffee Shop AU's where the coffee is a huge focus, but I enjoy the coffee shop atmosphere in Real Life.

Au's are awesome!

(Anonymous) 2013-04-05 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
...I un-ironically love mundane AUs and always will.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-05 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I have to admit I do like them too - it's always an interesting exercise to see if the author can get it to work.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-05 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I hadn't thought of those kinds of AUs, although it is pretty obviously something along the same lines (if not quite the same), and definitely worth a consideration. Hm. Now I'm wondering about the boundaries between AUs and stuff like omega verse, which I suppose is an AU in a sense, but seems different.
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[personal profile] charming_stranger 2013-04-06 01:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Blanketfic, maybe?