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da

But, there is a difference between "real men" and trans men. I don't pretend at all to be a real man. I'd love to be, I'd kill to be, but I know I was born female, so I'm different. It may not be polite, in the way that telling someone they're fat, or they got a bad haircut, is frowned upon, but it is true.

There is a difference, but when you start to declare what is "real" and what is not, that's the problem. There shouldn't be a hierarchy or dismissive labeling. Find another way to phrase it.

Different you may be, but all men are different. When you say "real" it automatically draws a parallel with "fake." Are you? If you are, does that mean all trans men are?

oh this real bullshit again

real women have curves real women are skinny real women are strong real women are weak real women dont need a man real women make good wives whatever the fuck

"real anything" is such bullshit

But real men do have penises. That's a biological fact. You can't ignore it.

The thing is, by using "real men" to differentiate someone who was born biologically male and someone whose trans, *does* actually mean you're saying that their identity as a male is invalid. It isn't 'real', which isn't true.

ayrt

I get what you're saying. It is confusing either way... would "real male" be any better, or the same? Or "traditional male"? I just feel there needs to be some distinction between "man in body" and "man in spirit"... personally, myself, for my own peace of mind. I'm not suggesting that anything I propose needs to be the rule for everyone.

AYRT

Honestly, I'd just use biological male, since what you're referring to is someone who was born biologically male, and the terms already in use so there'd be less confusion attached to it. But it's really up to you.

"cis"

The average person offline, and possibly online, is not familiar with that term.

they can open a dictionary

Shocking as it may be, dictionaries do not generally contain definitions of prefixes. They contain definitions of actual words.

Instead of being a total jackass about it, when someone asks you what a word means online or in real life, you could, quite possibly, tell them what it means instead of telling them to open a dictionary, or (jesus christ) directing them to the pinnacle of douchebaggery that is LMGTFY.

uh, I dunno what kinda shitty dictionaries you use, but all the ones I've ever looked in do define things like prefixes and suffixes.

now, an actual objection would be that many dictionaries probably don't have this definition of cis in them yet.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cis

cis
adjective \ˈsis\
Definition of CIS
: characterized by having certain atoms or groups of atoms on the same side of the longitudinal axis of a double bond or of the plane of a ring in a molecule

win

da

I couldn't disagree more. I am a real man. My body is a male body. Yeah, it's got some differences from most other mens' bodies, but that doesn't make it not male, or me not a "real man".

You fuckers confuse the issue so much.

Thanks for letting me know I'm not allowed to have a say in how I label my own body. Asshole.

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