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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-06 03:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #2286 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-04-06 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT, but I think it's something that I notice more and that pings my radar specifically as a queer woman. I've seen a fair number of straight women in fandom who ship m/m couples but are seriously prejudiced against lesbians or bisexual women and can even be hostile toward them, or have issues with queer people of any gender outside of the realm of fiction. Just because someone thinks two dudes together is hot doesn't mean that they're going to support queer rights or necessarily see actual queer people as more than just fap fodder. If that were the case, I think we'd see more straight men who watch f/f porn supporting queer rights (there are some out there, I'm sure, but I don't think anyone would say there aren't a fair amount who just think two chicks together are hot and don't give a shit about actual queer women). I don't think the people who fetishize homosexuality and have a disconnect between support of queerness in fiction vs real life are the majority of fandom, but I don't think they're a negligible percentage, either.
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[personal profile] ill_omened 2013-04-06 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
The lesbian fetishisation by straight men is just part of a patriarchal expression of culture, whereas the balance with women fetishising gay men isn't quite as imbalanced (and the cultural forces at play are far more complicated).

Plus one is acceptable and considered the norm, whilst the other is rarely remarked upon by the mainstream at best, and at worst seen as deviant.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-06 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
None of which means that fetishization of male homosexuality doesn't exist or isn't prevalent in certain subsets of fandom. It may not be as accepted by society as a whole, but it is the norm (or at the very least, widely accepted or popular) in a number of fandom cultures. Straight women in fandom who ship slash couples and don't give a crap about lesbians, bisexual women, trans people, or even real-life gay men, aside from their use as a "sassy gay friend", exist and they aren't the rare unicorn that you seem to think they are.