[ SECRET POST #2287 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2287 ⌋

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Comments

[elephantinegrace]

Some reporter: Why do you write these strong female characters?

Joss Whedon: Because you’re still asking me that question.

Replace "female" with "colored," "queer," "disabled," etc.

[(Anonymous)]

Joss Whedon should stop pretending to be a feminist. He isn't.

[(Anonymous)]

Can I ask why? I'm honestly not too familiar with the man.

[(Anonymous)]

Because he isn't a perfect saint that is enlightened in all ways and was raised in a bubble.

[(Anonymous)]

But...is anybody? A perfect saint, that is. I don't think being feminist means being above all flaws. I won't say he is one or not because again, I don't know much about him or his attitude, but I should think that anyone can stand for women's equality, no matter who they are or where they are from. Being raised in a sheltered environment (or, that is how I'm understanding what you said) does raise difficulties in understanding problems like that, but it isn't a permanent barrier.

I'm saying this all in the case that he isn't just an uppity douchenozzle, so to speak, like you have implied he is. I've just come across people who've seriously bent what being feminist fundamentally means, or discriminated against other people (including me, despite being a woman) because they did not fit in with the background or attitude or myriad of other ridiculous qualifiers a "proper" feminist should have. That, and it seems more like you dislike him because he is presented as the perfect paragon of male-supportive feminism to the point where it's just silly and only caused by fan adoration.

[anonymouslyyours]

I think ayrt was being sarcastic in response to the first anon you replied to.

[(Anonymous)]

all of his 'strong women' are put through traumatic situations to earn their strength/have their womanhood used against them.
and he tormented + got rid of one of his actresses for getting pregnant.
there's other stuff, that's ottomp

[erinptah]

All his male characters are put through traumatic situations too. The female characters don't automatically have sexist storylines just because they're also full of pain and suffering.

Whedon's writing isn't flawless or sexism-free, but IMO on the feminism scale he's ahead of a lot of sf/f TV writers -- and definitely ahead of the people who think writing "strong female characters" (whether their definition lines up with yours or not) is an exotic and remarkable thing for a man to do.

[(Anonymous)]

his male characters aren't put through traumatic situations that are a direct cause of their manhood unlike some of his female characters though.

[(Anonymous)]

The Cordelia Chase and Inara debacle come to mind.

[(Anonymous)]

What's Inara about? I've seen Firefly and I don't remember anything off about it, unless you mean how Mal talked to her at times.

[(Anonymous)]

If Firefly hadn't been continued, Inara would have been gangraped.