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[ SECRET POST #251 ]

⌈ Secret Post #251 ⌋

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It's also called 'high standards'. She's creating an imaginary guy (that is her ideal guy) that she's comparing the society of men against. Probably not fair and it might hurt her in the long run if she's really serious about wanting a boyfriend, but that's something that she'll have to deal with.

so you don't see anything wrong with having impossibly high standards BASED ON ANIME CHARACTER FOR AN ANIME SHE'S NEVER WATCHED?

create all the imaginary friends she wants, but she stepped over the line when she claims it was a character that she doesn't even know about!

And what line would this happen to be?

DOH! What am I thinking? Wait, forgive me. I keep forgetting. I took Fangirl 101 last year and on the "How To Be a Proper Fangirl Test" that is exactly the question missed on Golden Rules of Fangirlism.

~~Wow, when did I develop this bitchy streak? I really don't mean to insult you, but I find the comment itself quite silly.~~

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I guess I can see people thinking her weird for having "high standards based on an anime character" (which I don't, but then again I'm more open-minded and understanding towards stuff like that... I don't see it as any different than having opinions/high standards based off of things read in a novel or gossiped about amongst friends... my mom had those issues with sex - she said she had been so "hyped" up over it and ended up being greatly disappointed and told me that it's not all as great as people gush about)... but the rest of that sentence seems irrelevant.

yeah, I think there is a certain expected set of behaviors for calling yourself a fan of something. that would include knowing the source, having read it, watched it or played it.

do you write fanfiction for fandoms you've never seen the source?

it's the same concept. she claimed to be in love with a character from an anime she didn't watch. if she wants to have these high standards based on made up and imaginary things in her head, that's fine.

she's set herself up for a very sad, lonely and disappointed life if that's the case.

Okay, you've got a good point. It's like when writing a report or preparing for a speech, YOU NEED TO DO YOUR RESEARCH. In order to make a good argument, in order to support your points, in order to make conclusions you need to understand your data.

Point established. But let's further continue on with that analogy. How you come across your information can come from different sources. Like, let's say your speech is on the inhumanity of the Holocaust. You can find straight facts and figures in a book, you can reference books written by actual victims of the war, or you can directly go to the source itself and interview a victim or previous Nazi. Not all forms of information are made available to every person, some aren't necessary, and others just might not be worth it (even if they are the ideal choice). I've written lab reports, and many times I've had to research specific information for my reports. It'd be ideal to look up and read the article that I need, but sometimes it's not possible ('cause I don't have access) or practical, or it's not worth my time (like it's too long, and it's just better to read a summary by someone else).

Fanfiction writing is the same way. The author does not have to necessarily read/watch the original series in order to understand what's going on. That'd be the ideal situation, but it doesn't always happen. And to people who really care about who they're writing about, they'll do the research. Reading other fanfiction is not the best source for information, b/c it's constantly littered with the authors' personal opinions and interpretations (and sometimes outright lies or misconceptions). But it is still a source in order to gauge different ways to interpret the character. I think the best would be to get some objective key facts down first before you start relying upon the subjective material, but not everyone is going to think of that or realize. Hell, when people are 'fan'ing seriously over something, all coherent thought generally gets thrown out the window. Believe me, I've experienced it.

By not directly watching the series, the only dimension that's being left out is her own personal opinion of Duo Maxwell. But a lot of people out there could give a butt less about the author's intent... they just want to see their characters put into situations that didn't happen in the canon. And generally, they want to see it done THEIR way. "Oh, Duo should be heterosexual - No Duo's a homo! - I think he's seme, he's all man - Oh but he can be uke at times - Guys, you're pathetic for trying to pair him up, you're completely screwing up the character." That's personal opinion. The author's not always going to win the favor of everyone, b/c everyone has his/her own preferences and interpretations.

The author can, however, avoid the OOC character if she/he truly wishes it. That just simply requires research. The direct source is ideal, but not necessary.

And people can whine, but we have our reasons why we don't. I like Renji and Gin from Bleach, but I'm not willing to sit through the series. I tried both reading and watching, and it just doesn't strike me. And I have a million other better ways to be wasting what free time I have other than making certain I'm pleasing the rest of you folk out there and abiding by the expectations.

I'm so much of a loser that I need to split my rant in half... how pathetic.

Rant continued...

And to those people out there who get stressed out about fandom being filled with fanbrats who never watched/read the original material... I understand your pain. I know what it feels like to wade through a bunch a crap just to find some solid gold. But you know what? That's life. They're 'fan'ing the things they want to, and we're 'fan'ing it the way we want to, and we stress and piss each other off until we're at each other's throats. But also realize that while there probably is a strong correlation between not watching/reading the material and writing a load a crap (with OOC characters and whatnot), that doesn't always ring true. i.e. My tryst with GW. I watched the whole series when it was on Cartoon Network, and I loved Relena while I was watching it. Soon after finishing it though I came across the Wonderful World of Web. I was introduced to many shiny, new things at the time, one of them being yaoi. I fell in love with it immediately. And I was childish, obsessive, and completely immature with it. I became a hardcore 1x2 3x4 shipper, and I joined the fancraze of bashing Relena left and right, even though I initially loved her. I regret what I did, but I'm glad I went through the stage, b/c it helped me realize many things about myself, what I liked, how I could improve and so on.

So I guess my whole point is that while I can understand people getting stressed out over other's not reading the material, it also begins to frustrate me at the same time. Whatever, you can think less of people for doing so - there's nothing I can do about it - but we have our reasons and it is not necessary.

And I could continue ranting until I was blue in the face, but I'm tired and I need to go to bed. Therefore, end transmission.

Have a great day everyone! *dead*

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