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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-11 06:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #2291 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2291 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-04-12 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
What? I feel the opposite. I hate how the show has sort of made her sympathetic and created all these stans when in the books she is a stone cold asshole. Now, women are often reduced to 'she's just a bitch!' very easily regardless of what they do, I admit, but Cersei really is that terrible. Your lack of company in loving her isn't sexism. Stop making excuses for her. The other women in the book prove you don't have to behave the way she does to manage those things.
By the way interesting =/= liked. You can find a character interesting and still hate them.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-12 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
It's very telling how they had to tone down both Cersei and Catelyn just so people would tolerate them in the show. They even had to write an ~apology to Jon Snow from Cat because people still haven't forgiven her for not raising him and for being mean to him that one time when Bran was in a coma.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-12 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
That's just a sign of how Benioff and Weiss don't know how to write the characters. It goes beyond just the female ones too.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-12 03:40 pm (UTC)(link)
sa

True. I at least still like show!Cersei and show!Cat. Show!Robb is pure awful as they've removed every mildly interesting facet of his personality.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-12 12:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Your lack of company in loving her isn't sexism. Stop making excuses for her.

Oh come on, that's a load of BS. Look at all the evil male characters that have a loving fanbase. Loki killed thousands of people pretty much just for the lulz, and he has more fans than probably any other character in the Avengers movie. Ozai has plenty of fans thank you shirtless scene. The Lorax doesn't even have a fandom, it has a Once-ler fandom; all about a guy that destroyed an entire ecosystem of adorable animals.

Ugly fuckers like Mumm-ra and Red Skull probably have a fanbase. Doing shitty things in no way correlates to not having fans; not when you're a male.

Honestly, Cersei probably doesn't have a great deal of fans because she's a woman who's evil in a passive way; she's manipulative, political, and relies a great deal on sex to get shit done, as well as trading on her male relative's power. That's a character type that in women, will rankle a lot of people.

Contrast that with someone like Azula, who's evil, but very self-reliant, active, and uses mostly her own talents to get ahead. She's also a pretty popular villainous.

Yes, it is sexist to hate only the type of acts that are the expression of evil from oppressed women. That is, if Cersei was running around being an Azula-type she wouldn't get half as much hate, even if she was running around killing double the people. Because that type of evil has been the type practiced by men and barred to women for a great deal of history; and as such doesn't get half as bad a rap as the evil, sexual, scheming passive woman type.