[ SECRET POST #2291 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2291 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Uh, yeah... no. I just read that as you're saying that a character who shares your sex is, just on that basis alone, far too similar to you for you to enjoy.

I see a lot of problems in that statement.

I want to live vicariously through other women having life experiences and adventures that I'm never going to have, even in worlds that don't exist. Men already have the world revolve around them. Just for once, I want the world to revolve around *me*, even if it's a fictional world.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm a different anon and I think the original commenter might have worded that not so well, but I kind of get where she's coming from. I like to read about women and men, but I find each has its advantages over the other for me.

I don't have many men in my life IRL. I'm not close to any except for my dad (and even with him we're not supertight-close, just regular family-close). So getting to live vicariously through men in fiction is unique for me because it reminds me that it is possible for me to relate to them. As messed up as it may sound, I think it helps humanize them for me. Sometimes, just sometimes that adds a layer to my interest in a character.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm a NA to this thread but I wonder if this is why I just don't understand the "reading men as escapism thing," like, AT ALL. I've always had TONS of men in my life (friends, family, boyfriends, and now my husband) and there has been literally no difference between the genders in my experience. Difference between individuals, but the people I know subvert and switch any and all gender stereotypes way, way more often than they embody them. I am more similar to many of the guys I know than many of the girls I know.

So now I'm honestly curious: do some of the fans so fascinated with male characters mostly only have experience with men on TV or something? I admit I always find slash and slash bait written by girls so unrealistic. They characters do not resemble any man I have ever known in any way, shape or form. The guys I show it too find it unrealistic, too, and always know if it was written by a girl. They say the men seem totally alien. I don't know...

[(Anonymous)]

i guess i didn't word myself well - i like female characters just fine within the canon itself, i just tend not to be interested in exploring them more within fanworks. (and for the record, i don't have much interest in male characters who have similar personalities to me either.)

Just for once, I want the world to revolve around *me*, even if it's a fictional world.

see that's where we differ. i don't imagine myself as part of a story at all when i'm experiencing it, i'm more the third-person observer type.

i'm also not a fan of most modern real-world canons because again, it's too similar to real life in my mind and it just doesn't hold my interest. i consume media for things that aren't like my actual life at all, which is why i tend to prefer sci-fi and fantasy canons. in general, i relate to female characters better than i do male characters, which ironically means that i end up having less interest in them.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

i don't imagine myself as part of a story at all when i'm experiencing it, i'm more the third-person observer type.

I sympathise with you there. I tend to think that I grew out of my self-insert stage early because I prefer to sit back and watch, instead of imagining myself participating.

It's like a tweet I posted last night (in the midst of a flurry of MTV poll tweeting): Thorin Oakenshield: I wouldn't say he's welcome to do what he likes to me because I'd rather he do it to Bilbo instead.

Maybe a little part of that is that the characters I like the most are the ones I'd probably think are total jerks IRL, but that exact jerkishness is what makes them fascinating characters to read/watch/play.