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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-12 07:04 pm

[ SECRET POST #2292 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2292 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Criminal Minds]


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[Zero Escape]


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08. [repeat]


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[Veronica Mars]


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[Mariqueen Maandig/How to Destroy Angels]


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[Fire Emblem Awakening]


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14. [SPOILERS for Teen Wolf]



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15. [SPOILERS for Walking Dead]



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18. [SPOILERS for Hell on Wheels]



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19. [WARNING for rape]



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20. [WARNING for guro, non-con]
http://i.imgur.com/1TrlMId.jpg


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #327.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
iggy: (Default)

[personal profile] iggy 2013-04-12 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah he's creepy as hell, but I wasn't surprised by his existence. Her delving into more 'real' forms of evil was something she'd really been doing all along. There's a reason people hate Umbridge more than Voldemort, for example. Umbridge is someone we can actually see existing.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-12 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, Umbridge is right up there on 'real-world' awfulness.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-12 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Because she's a woman tbqh.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-12 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh goody, we're going to have this conversation.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-13 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
I was being sardonic.

You're in luck however, because anon below doesn't seem they were!

(Anonymous) 2013-04-13 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
That's kinda what I was referring, derp. Not you but what was to follow. Sorry!

(Anonymous) 2013-04-13 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Make me my supper bitch

(Anonymous) 2013-04-13 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
I'm confused here. Are you saying that men who do bad things are less realistic than women who do bad things, or that people who act like Umbridge are always female, or that people only think Umbridge is bad because she's female? These are the only interpretations I can come up with of this comment and none of them make any sense.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-13 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
There's a trend here in which every time a woman is brought up in a negative light by fandom, or hated for being a villain one of the usual suspects will run to the comments arguing that the only reason the reaction is so bad is internalised misogyny. Or they'll make secrets to that effect.

I was making light of that.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-13 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
ah so you were mocking rad!fem anon. sry thought you might BE rad!fem anon
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[personal profile] silverau 2013-04-13 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
But Radfemanon never talks about fandom; she just waits for someone to mention feminism in the comments and then derails the conversation.
iggy: (Default)

[personal profile] iggy 2013-04-13 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
I favor female characters 9/10 times, and Umbridge still garners a... level of rage from me that no other HP character can manage.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-13 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT, but Umbridge is probably hated more because bureaucrats and bad educators like her exist in the real world and never get comeuppance for what they do, just like she never did. You'll probably never meet a Voldemort, but you'll meet an Umbridge (or more than one, frighteningly enough). Her being a woman has nothing to do with it.
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[personal profile] iggy 2013-04-13 08:09 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. I agree completely.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-13 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
If it makes you feel any better, she did get her comeuppance offscreen, as it were; JKR has said she was sent to Azkaban after the Second War. I know that's not as satisfying as it happening actually on-page, but better than nothing, I guess?

(Anonymous) 2013-04-13 05:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, it was implied that she was gang-raped by all those centaurs...

(Anonymous) 2013-04-12 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Voldemort was Wizard Hitler. There was an actual Hitler.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-13 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Yes, Voldemort was loosely modelled on Hitler, but that is the thing, most people are never going to meet Hitler or anyone like him. We don't just sit down and drink tea with some warmongering dictator. So to that extent, while Hitler was certainly real, for many people the sheer force of his evil, especially when they have never actually dealt with it, still makes him unreal.

On the other hand, many of us have met that godawful teacher or that terrible jerk down at the office or other people like Umbridge. That is what makes her awfulness so very real (and because of that so much more hate inducing)
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[personal profile] iggy 2013-04-13 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
This, exactly.

[identity profile] janejenajeny.livejournal.com 2013-04-13 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but Hitler is just SO AWFUL that you can't really imagine seeing, interacting with, someone like him in real life. You can't visualize him.

Does that make sense?
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[personal profile] iggy 2013-04-13 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Voldemort is much more fantastical though.

But even more so it's easier to imagine someone like Umbridge or Fenrir living in your neighborhood or being your neighbor of influencing your life than it is to imagine living with a Hitler. It's just closer to home for your average reader.
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[personal profile] illiadandoddity 2013-04-13 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, but I've never met a mass-murderer in real life. I have met abusive teachers/bosses, which is what Umbridge was.