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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-12 07:04 pm

[ SECRET POST #2292 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2292 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Criminal Minds]


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[Zero Escape]


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08. [repeat]


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[Veronica Mars]


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[Mariqueen Maandig/How to Destroy Angels]


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[Fire Emblem Awakening]


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14. [SPOILERS for Teen Wolf]



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15. [SPOILERS for Walking Dead]



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19. [WARNING for rape]



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20. [WARNING for guro, non-con]
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Re: Books you read as a kid, but didn't quite get the allegory

(Anonymous) 2013-04-13 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
I would argue that Tolkien's figures aren't usually as symbolic as all that - certainly I think that Bombadil's not standing in for any figure in Christian mythology, and I don't think that Gandalf's fall is directly symbolic (although you could certainly argue that it has a figural role in regards to concepts of Christian theology).

He's not CS Lewis. He's way better than CS Lewis. In fact, I would argue that he gave a lot of thought to the religious underpinnings of Middle-earth, and that it's very specifically not Christian allegory, and that if it were Christian allegory, it would not serve the function that Tolkien intended it to serve. In other words, the ways in which the world is not Christian are super important, from the Christian, Catholic point of view which Tolkien held deeply and which certainly suffused the entirety of the world. In some ways, one might make the argument that it's the fact that the world of Middle-earth is not allegorical that allows the world of Middle-earth to be figural, although I don't know that I'd go that far. The relation between the religious sensibility and the world is pretty tricky and complicated, as befits a great work of literature. But I would definitely say that the Christianity in Tolkien's work is not symbolic or allegorical; at most it is figural.
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Re: Books you read as a kid, but didn't quite get the allegory

[personal profile] ariakas 2013-04-13 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I agree, that's why I used Aslan, rather than Tom Bombadil, as my example of it done poorly.

Re: Books you read as a kid, but didn't quite get the allegory

(Anonymous) 2013-04-13 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
Well, fair enough. I'm still not sure I'd agree that Tom Bombadil is the same thing done well - I don't know if it's the same thing at all, and I don't know if there's many allegorical readings of Bombadil that I'd agree with. But fair enough.