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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-13 03:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #2293 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2293 ⌋

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[personal profile] fenm 2013-04-13 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Also being Amy and Rory's kid, which I (and MANY others) figured out months before (during "The Impossible Astronaut", in my case). Seriously, I kept waiting for there to be more, because... because Moffat couldn't be making such a mystery out of something so damn obvious that most fans I heard from had guessed it already... could he?

(Anonymous) 2013-04-13 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah that too. Honestly Moffat stretched out River's "mysteries" way too long so it got too easy for fans to guess what was up with her.

Which might not have even been an issue but then so much time and energy was put into River's story for series 6 and then it just ended up being a mess.
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[personal profile] fenm 2013-04-14 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly Moffat stretched out River's "mysteries" way too long so it got too easy for fans to guess what was up with her.

It's not even that, though. There were people who guessed she was the Doctor's wife in her FIRST story. And, again people figured out her being Amy and Rory's daughter way early, too. It's not a matter of him stretching them out too long (well, yeah, he did do that; but that's not why so many people guessed them), it's a matter of them being really obvious in the first place.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
True, River being the Doctor's Wife was about everyone's first guess. I suppose I was also just thinking that the stretched out story made it more annoying that it was really obvious.

And the long storytelling made it so even if someone hadn't guessed it, if they spent more then 5 seconds in fandom then they knew everyone else's guess.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 12:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I think Moffat confirmed that she would turn out to be his wife early on, before he even took over as show runner. I didn't think that was the big twist, being the child of Amy and Rory was clearly meant to be the thing. I just thought it was all a bit creepy and badly handled. I don't get why Rory and Amy were never bothered about where their child was or what happened to her, and finding out she went to school with you, that's just weird.

Alex Kingston is the best actor on the show though, she was marvellous in that role.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
I actually didn't care if it was obvious, I cared about how much the payoff mattered. As the canon plot points stand, even if he'd written it in a really subtle sneaky way with plenty of slight of hand that made the revelation a jaw-dropping twist no one saw coming, I'd still not care because the payoff is...she's the Doctor's wife. She's Amy and Rory's daughter. Okay, and this matters and is a big important meaningful thing that is important because...? It's hardly "Mr. Saxon".
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[personal profile] fenm 2013-04-14 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
I actually didn't care if it was obvious, I cared about how much the payoff mattered.

I see your point, but I disagree, mainly because the show spent so much damn time on it. It's like watching a murder mystery where you've guessed the killer and are waiting for the character to catch up. You just get frustrated, and want them to figure it out so they can get on with the plot already.

Okay, and this matters and is a big important meaningful thing that is important because...?

Now, that I do agree with. How does her relationship with any of these people change anything? Even her being the Doctor's wife really changes NOTHING about their relationship.