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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-13 03:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #2293 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2293 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 03:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Honor?

Shitty reason to hate an innocent child. The book even calls honor, what is it, "so much wind and words"?

Especially when her social standing isn't improved by being a hateful person to Jon and inflicting more misery on herself and him.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 06:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Except in the books, it wasn't Jon himself that she hated, it was his presence at Winterfell. A bastard being raised among her own trueborn children was a direct insult to her, and a threat to their inheritance. I think you're trying to impose a very limited modern perspective onto something that doesn't have a modern equivalent.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-15 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
And I think you're making excuses that really shouldn't be made... Cat isn't stupid. There's no reason why she shouldn't question society's mores. Other characters have done it.

There was a lot of gross stigma and weird beliefs about disabled people in the non-modern perspective, and that doesn't give Tywin a free pass for being a dick to his son for being born a dwarf.

And having been a personal witness to the very gross "the bastard/new kid is going to steal your inheritence!!!11" obsession from a parent in modern times, I can tell you it's still alive and well and completely disgusting and inexcusable.

There are very few excusable reasons for treating people like shit. There are even less when it comes to helpless children.

As for the "insult", that's a just a completely worthless excuse. It's basically saying that protecting one's pride is a good reason to be vicious to people. It's really not.

Chalk it up to society's mores: fine. But that is essentially admitting that Cat is close-minded and uncritical of the very flawed society around her. Which doesn't make her omg!evil in my opinin, but it's admittedly not an attractive set of traits in a character.