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[ SECRET POST #2295 ]

⌈ Secret Post #2295 ⌋

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[Dangan Ronpa]

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[Neil Gaiman]

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[My Mad Fat Diary]

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[victorious]

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[Trailer Park Boys]

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[Kamen Rider Fourze]

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[Cult]

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[What's Cooking with Ben Shephard and Lisa Faulkner]

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[QI]

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[Margaret Thatcher, The Amazing Mrs Pritchard, The Iron Lady]

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It's really awful.

Article since OP couldn't be fucked:

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2013/Apr-15/213736-syrian-regime-strikes-kill-52-civilians-including-27-children.ashx#axzz2Qa9hLFFf

Yes, it is awful. It's actually even kind of worse that you most likely only made this comment to be a dick.

Well, if you're the person who brought it up in the Boston thread, then you didn't exactly pick the best way to introduce the topic either. But thank you for posting the article-- it's a good thing to know about, and it's too bad that it didn't get more coverage, but I also never quite know how to get worked up about these things. To some extent it's natural that, even in this day and age, news is still reported somewhat locally, and news happening in North America will be presented as a "bigger deal" than news outside of North America. Not necessarily because of racism (although it's possible that that is also a factor, or just oversaturation of bad news from overseas), just because that's where people's priorities lie-- close to them. You prioritize the things that directly affect you highest (was there an explosion on my street?), then things that affect people definitely know (was there an explosion in my city?) then people you might know some of or know indirectly (was there an explosion in my country?) then things that probably don't affect people you know (was there an explosion on a different continent?) There's no point getting so angry when North American media report North American news. It's just the way people work.

That's not to say that there shouldn't be reporting of news outside North America. Obviously there are plenty of people here for whom Syrian news is local news because they have friends or relatives there, and it's important to also have international news just to have perspective and a sense of what events are shaping global forces. I'm just saying, when there's an explosion in Boston and American media go batshit, it's for good reason.

Ugh, that is awful. Thanks for linking the article. :/

(To the OP: using a tragedy that involves children's deaths to prove your point because you have a problem with the amount of coverage of events in America vs other parts of the world is vile.)

God that is tragic.

And I'm sure (some of not all of) the country is mourning them. Any loss of life is tragic.

Which leads me to: is there some unwritten international rule that for some reason Americans aren't allowed to mourn their dead?

Without also mourning the tragic deaths in everywhere else, I mean.

I imagine it's that some people get feud up when American news seems to be more important than other tragedies in other countries and a few jerks express that annoyance in an especially asshole-ish way.

Major newspapers like the New York Times do a good job of covering international news, NPR and PBS also do a great job (all NPR every talks about is Syria). We also get the BBC via PBS and NPR. So yeah, just because the big three cable news channels seem to be only able to focus on breaking news and won't stop covering it (and in this case it is a brand new story and most people want to know what happened and want to be kept informed of any new developments) doesn't mean Americans don't care about other things going on in the world.

Also, I know a lot of people online who live in Massachusetts and this affects this more directly than Syria for the moment so I can understand it taking up a lot of their attention right now

American news outlets had a lot of coverage of a bombing that took place, *gasp!*, in America? I know it's hard for some people to realize, but if a bombing happens in this country, it's going to get the most coverage. And comparing two tragedies because you have a hair across your ass about coverage is just fucking spitting in the face of those who are dead and injured.

(op from the other thread, curiously not op from this thread)

I don't live in America, it's understandable that American news cover the bombing. It's annoying that news in the rest of the world gave it so much importance, when most other international affairs are brushed off.

I love how this gets a thread of its own, doesn't even throw in the "ugh America" part this time, and people still come in and complain about it.

That's because you can actually see the sarcasm dripping off the post.

Likely because the person who made the thread was most likely doing it to prove a point after being told off earlier, or if they weren't the originator of that thread, were upset that someone told that person off and were likewise trying to prove a point.

Wasn't the original point that most people think "America > Everyone else" though? And that means everyone here are proving that point by coming and chewing OP out?
I mean, don't get me wrong. I think the OP of the other one was pretty much an asshole to bring it up in the Boston thread. And this thread is just poorly timed all around, but it's still a horrible tragedy. :c

Except that point was bullshit?

I'm not saying it wasn't. Just that if this is someone trying to prove that point, posting a new thread and pointing at the replies going "see! I made a new thread like they told me to and they're still bringing up the bombing in America!" would be like a success for them, I would think.

NAYRT - I'd say that if they'd probably find a way to spin it to prove their point no matter what people replied with, sadly. :/

touche

I don't think they're necessarily proving that, since this thread is most likely a smart ass response to the OP in the other thread getting chewed out, especially since they didn't even bother linking an article on it. If they really wanted to spread the word and get the info out there, that's the least they could have done. It's kind of tasteless to use a tragedy, whether it's what happened to these poor kids or what happened today in Boston, to try to win some sort of Internet fight, you know? Pretty sure that's more what people are taking offense to than any sort of America > the world mentality.

I agree that this should definitely receive a lot more coverage, since it was horrible and I feel terrible for those children and their families. Hell, I even agree that America (and Western nations in general) often gets an unfair amount of coverage when it comes to world news, but tragedies are tragedies and it's not a zero sum game. You can care about more than one terrible thing that happened, and a lot of people are just naturally more inclined to care about things that affect them or people they know directly or are closer to home.

You know, here's the thing that strikes me, and it's part of why I think the whole thing is a crock:

This is not the first terrible thing that has happened in Syria. Things have been all-around awful in that country since the initial uprising. Read any article about the human cost of the rebellion, and you'll be hard-pressed to not feel some degree of sorrow. However, not a single thing has ever been said about what's going on over there in F!S -- until today, until people started talking about an awful event in America.

That's what leads me to believe that those bringing it up do not truly feel sympathy or compassion for anyone there. Those kids are simply fuel for completely unrelated bitterness and pawns to be used in an argument.

It's true that coverage of world events in imbalanced. It's true that it's wrong, and it's true that it should be discussed and changed. However, it is not right to pit tragedies against one another as part of that discussion.

It's pretty obvious this was just a butthurt reaction to their being called out on their bullshit up-thread. They didn't even post a link. It's sickening, because I highly doubt this person gives two shits about what happened to those kids, they just want internet brownie points for being ~edgy~ and a ~hardcore political rebel~.

I have a lot of family in and around Boston. Boston is my hometown. That they're using what happened to those victims to say what happened in Boston doesn't really matter disgusts me in more ways than I can put into words. They can kindly take their SJW fake bullshit and fuck off. You aren't special or edgy for using dead children as a way to score ~net points~, OP. You're nothing but scum.

I think I must have missed something, because I'm a bit confused at the people automatically defending american news in a thread about syria when I...can't see the comment they're defending about???????

Not that they matter because jfc poor Syria D: D: D:

This particular thread was posted after this one:

http://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/790488.html?thread=647275480#cmt647275480

The bombing in Syria was used to malign the coverage of the bombing in Boston.

oh I see. When I go to page 2 it loads bottom up and for some reason I thought I had seen all the GC posts

Sucky situation all around, but it's a big world. There's disasters happening everywhere all the time.

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