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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-15 06:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #2295 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2295 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Dangan Ronpa]


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[Neil Gaiman]


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[My Mad Fat Diary]


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[victorious]


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[Doctor Who]


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[Trailer Park Boys]


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[Kamen Rider Fourze]


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[Cult]


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[What's Cooking with Ben Shephard and Lisa Faulkner]


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[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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[QI]


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[Margaret Thatcher, The Amazing Mrs Pritchard, The Iron Lady]


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[Buffy/Angel]


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[Batman Beyond]


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[Hetalia]


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Notes:

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
toshi_hakari: (Default)

[personal profile] toshi_hakari 2013-04-16 09:03 am (UTC)(link)
Why are you posting as anon, I want to kiss you for that comment <3

Just like Shinji in Evangelion, MANY people seemingly get Squall wrong. But as soon as someone is reclusive and not immediately opening up to people, he/she is a dick. While Shinji suffers from depression and Squall is just trying to protect himself from getting hurt again, both things are something a lot of people apparently don't want to see in a work of fiction.

Of course their relationship starts quite weird because Squall is trying to push Rinoa away and she tries to find her way in to find out what happened to this guy. It's easy to think there is no spark at all, but if you look out for it, there are actually a LOT of little piece of interaction way before the "Eyes on Me" scene, that hint toward it.
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[personal profile] ariakas 2013-04-16 09:19 am (UTC)(link)
but if you look out for it, there are actually a LOT of little piece of interaction way before the "Eyes on Me" scene, that hint toward it

Only if you actively choose for there to be, though. There are also numerous dialogue/thought options the player can pick that suggests he's the opposite of interested and there's nothing even remotely like a spark...

...But come disc two shits on your choices and forces the romance anyway.
toshi_hakari: (Default)

[personal profile] toshi_hakari 2013-04-16 09:23 am (UTC)(link)
I know that there are several scenes that are optional and that can push more into the romantic direction, but I didn't mean those. I meant scenes that happen in the game no matter what you choose.

But then again, I've come to love the Laguna/Raine ship a lot more in the past ten years and I wish there was a spin-off about him :(

(Anonymous) 2013-04-16 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Then you either didn't pay attention, or you're incedibly biased against it. Because this isn't just the optional scenes.
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[personal profile] ariakas 2013-04-17 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
Oh I paid plenty of attention, and I played the game multiple times. Thing is, every single "non-optional" scene that might be taken as slightly romantic for the pairing can be (and is if the player chooses) directly contradicted by the optional ones.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-16 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahahaha, it's because I don't have a personal account.

But yeah, I find most people apply the usual RPG tropes to FF8 characters when a huge point to the characters is actually, "This is what really happens to kid soldiers." Everyone except Rinoa and Zell in the main party? Has some kind of pathology. Include Seifer in that, by the way, who has similar issues as Squall, but he EXTERNALIZES instead of INTERNALIZES.

Quistis places a huge emphasis on her career's success, probably thinking she wasn't "good enough" for the people who adopted her and then gave her back. Selphie is a cute, energetic psychopath who thinks the extreme is the answer--her first solution to President Deling was to blow him up with a rocket launcher. Irvine flirts, but it's obvious he's not really entirely serious about the relationships--why would he be when he probably thinks most everyone will end up moving on and he'll be right back where he was? Better to enjoy the moment. Zell turned out okay because he was adopted young and kept by a loving family--which is why he creates such whiplash in comparison to the party.

Rinoa has her own problems, but not nearly as much as Squall, Quistis and Irvine. But then I always got the feeling her mother didn't die in an actual accident, and it was more or less what her father told her to soften the blow--that Julia was actually murdered to get at Fury because he was a high-ranking officer and political figure who rose quickly.
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[personal profile] toshi_hakari 2013-04-16 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, that's understandable ;)

You're SPOT ON about all of them. Each and every character copes in a different way and Squall happens to shut himself off.

The way people have reacted to Squall in the past just shows that the extrovert ideal (as presented by Seifer's way to cope) is still more accepted, than being introverted. It's just that there are different reactions to what these characters have experienced and I think it's actually great that Square took the approach to show it.
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[personal profile] celestiel 2013-04-17 02:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Just here to say I fucking love you for this comment. How incredibly fucked up the child soldiers setting and characters are has always been my favourite thing about FFVIII. Like, I get the game didn't make this stuff as explicit as they should have, but it's a fucking tragedy how so many people don't see this stuff and write the game off all the time.

Please talk about FFVIII forever and ever, Anon.
Edited 2013-04-17 14:13 (UTC)