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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-16 06:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #2296 ]


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Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-04-17 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
I'm the thread OP, and just stepping in here for a second to say: these are all good points. But I'd just like to add that they're also clearly your opinions. I mean, you've lain out some facts, but at the end of the day, you find Crowley more likeable than Bela. That's totally fine.

But I would also just add that Crowley's been around for almost four seasons now. Bela got one - and a 16-episode one at that. She had far less time to develop the motivations and rationale, and redeeming qualities/characteristics, that you claim she didn't have. That is something to take into account.

And again I would just say that SPN has a track record with not WRITING good female characters. So the fact that you see Bela as one-dimensionally evil says as much about how she was written as about how she really just was.

I'm not denying Bela's flaws. And I don't really hate Crowley either. But I found Bela really interesting to watch. She wasn't a good person, but I liked her. To me, she did display vulnerability, and in the limited time we saw her, I bought her motivations.

And again, I wasn't in fandom back in S3 but it's my understanding that the fans' negative reaction to her was partly why she got so abruptly written off. And I'm still bitter about that - that characters like Crowley got four years to grow and be fleshed out, and she never got that chance.

OP again

(Anonymous) 2013-04-17 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
And I can understand that. It does happen too often and for bad reasons. Maybe if she'd had more time to develop as a character, we would have learned things about her that would've changed my opinion. I didn't get into fandom until the S5/S6 hiatus, but I've never been one to seriously call for getting rid of a character. I'm more prone to say "For the love of God, give me a reason why I shouldn't loathe this person!"

I will also say this: Bela would make a superb demon, and I'd enjoy seeing her return in that capacity for an episode or two, if only because I love call-backs to past continuity. I admit I'm curious how she fared once she got Downstairs and whether she met any of the other Hellish personalities we've seen come and go.