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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-17 06:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #2297 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2297 ⌋

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OP

(Anonymous) 2013-04-18 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
So the fact that the show features Don Draper (man), Roger Sterling (man), Pete Campbell (weasel masquerading as a man), Salvatore Romano (man) - plus lots more, oh wait, and Peggy Olsen (woman) and Joan Holloway (woman)...

doesn't indicate a trend?

Sure, women find their own agency and their own power in the Mad Men verse, but the camera inevitably seems to look more at the men than the women do.

Pan Am subverts this, even while retaining the 1960s Truth in Television power dynamic of men retaining cultural superiority.
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Re: OP

[personal profile] fadeinthewash 2013-04-18 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not going to argue that men get a heavier focus in Mad Men (especially one man in particular, i.e. Don), but throwing in Peggy as if she's being overshadowed by Roger and farking SAL who hasn't been seen or heard from in years is a little disingenuous. (Don's -- typically independent and savvy-- girlfriends get more time than Sal has had all said and done.) There's also Betty, Megan, and Sally as strong recurring characters. You look at the uber-stylish promo photos: between two pictures, you have 7 people shown, and 4 of them are women. You look at 3 pictures, you get 5 women to the 3 prominent men (Roger, Pete, Don). If we want to play the "and lots more game," well, there are "lots more" women characters as well who get just as little screentime.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-04-20 09:05 am (UTC)(link)
+1
Also the female characters in Mad Men are among the best and most interesting on television, they have their own plot and are often sharing storylines.
I hate Don Draper, but it bothers me when people complain about this being " a show about men" because it's like they are brushing off all the awesome ladies.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-04-18 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
LOL Sal has never been more than a supporting character whose sole characterisation was 'closeted gay man'. There was one episode where he was front and center and after that he was gone for good, and that was 3 seasons ago! Meanwhile characters like Peggy, Betty and Sally are no longer involved in the protagonist's life yet they still have storylines and screen-time.