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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-19 06:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #2299 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2299 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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10. [SPOILERS for Resident Evil 6]



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11. [SPOILERS for Doctor Who]



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14. [WARNING for ?? something]



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15. [WARNING for abuse]



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16. [WARNING for rape]



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17. [WARNING for rape]

[Spartacus / Once Upon a Time]


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(Anonymous) 2013-04-19 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
The argument in Storybrooke is rape by fraud using the fact that she remembers that she once raped and enslaved him, but because of her magic he no longer does. He's not consenting to sleep with who she actually is, he's consenting to who she's physically gone inside his head and made him think she is. So rape by fraud, and as soon as he manages to reach past that and try to leave, she kills him. He was having sex with her because she deliberately created everything about his situation in order to make him do so, and the second he tried to fight back, she exercised her power over him and killed him dead.

Not a consensual relationship.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-20 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
Rape by fraud? I would call that manipulation and even dubious consent, but not rape per se.

But maybe I'm missing something, since I'm not into the fandom and I'm only basing my opinion on the explanations given here.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-20 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
In one world, she enslaved him by physically ripping his heart out of his chest and using it to control him by magic. It's heavily implied she used this control to rape him, since the first thing she does after taking his heart is have him taken to her chambers.

Then, she enacts a curse (over the whole kingdom, not just him), which wipes peoples memories and implants new ones designed to her specification. Only she and maybe three other people remember the real world. The rest of them are living out lives and memories Regina designed for them. Graham's new life involves being her lover.

She took away, personally, his memories of what she had done to him, in order to live a fantasy life where he was with her 'willingly'. As in, it wasn't that there was a magical accident and she took advantage of it (which would be creepy enough) but she deliberately removed the memories of her crimes from pretty much everyone in order to play with them in her personal fantasy world.

There is pretty much no way he (or anyone else) can consent under those circumstances. So, yeah, I'm calling it rape.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-20 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
All this, plus the fact we were directly shown she is still using the heart to control him when she had him arrest that man for drunk driving while he was standing in her office. It's not a huge leap of logic to imagine her using it to have him come to her bed.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-20 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
FYI, in real life there's no such thing as "dubious consent". It's just a tag in fanfic, usually for the purpose of differentiating between someone flat-out having sex with someone who's saying "no," and having sex with someone who's, say, drunk or something.

In real life, "dubious consent" is called rape, i.e.: a lack of a no is not a yes.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-20 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
+1

that anything that's not flat-out violent rape is classed as "dubious consent" is a major issue of rape culture.

and its usefulness as a fic tag is also debatable. honestly it seems more like a way to avoid harshing people's squee over toxic relationships that involve rape.
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[personal profile] writerserenyty 2013-04-20 06:48 am (UTC)(link)
This; in real life, if it's "dubious consent," it's safe to say it was rape.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-20 06:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Kind of a side note - rape by fraud is, at least where I live, more of a legal thing than anything. It basically means you lied to them about who you were on a massive scale to sleep with them on a regular basis. [Technically, it doesn't have to be an on going/have been a regular thing...but in order to have any real legal case it does.]

So, from what's been described, rape by fraud is probably the closest thing to what it actually is as far as definitions go.