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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-19 06:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #2299 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2299 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Kuroko no Basuke]


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[Milestone Inc./Radilgy/Karous]


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[Glee/RPS]


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[The Following]


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10. [SPOILERS for Resident Evil 6]



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11. [SPOILERS for Doctor Who]



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12. [SPOILERS for Homestuck]



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13. [SPOILERS for Southland]



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14. [WARNING for ?? something]



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15. [WARNING for abuse]



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16. [WARNING for rape]



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17. [WARNING for rape]

[Spartacus / Once Upon a Time]


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18. [WARNING for animal abuse]




















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(Anonymous) 2013-04-20 12:17 pm (UTC)(link)
people sympathize with the thinking, feeling being

Except animals are sentient, thinking and feeling beings too. I'm pretty sure an animal being tortured is going to feel fear and pain in much the same way a human would. All right, they might not have the same thought processes as a human being beaten up (such as the example you gave of the person wondering "why am I being targeted?") but still I don't see why that diminishes their suffering.

It doesn't make sense to me that an animal not being able to understand what's going on, in the same way that an adult human can, somehow makes it less of a crime. A baby wouldn't be able to understand what was going on either if s/he were being tortured, but I'm pretty sure no-one would claim that that somehow makes them a less sympathetic victim. Or that beating up a human adult was worse than torturing a baby for that reason.
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[personal profile] scrubber 2013-04-20 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
That humans suffer more does NOT diminish the suffering of an animal. I'm not saying pain that happens to animals is okay at all. But humans feel the pain and fear - which are largely chemical and don't inherently suggest a higher thinking/understanding - and SO much more as a product of higher thinking/understanding so that's why they matter to me more than fucking animals, sorry.

Babies are little humans so same rules apply. Just because they can't get it now doesn't mean it won't be a source of immense pain later in life. Children abused before memories form still show signs of being abused so yeah, still more important.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-21 06:32 am (UTC)(link)
Plenty of animals who are abused still show signs in later life. You work at any animal sanctuary where previously abused animals are rescued and they'll tell you how different animals react different from the abuses they've suffered. Like humans, some are able to overcome it, some partially are, and some never do fully.

I myself have a cat who came from a previously abusive home (he will still only a few months old when I got him), and even though he's lived with me for over 12 years now he's still extremely nervous of people (including of me sometimes) and will often hide away. If you honestly think that an animal who's been abused doesn't ever carry emotional scars, as well as physical ones, from it then I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you and end this conversation here, because we're never going to agree.