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⌈ Secret Post #2300 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

06. http://i.imgur.com/kqCXZHP.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

Wait... what?

People didn't take Gangnam Style seriously because it was a silly novelty song. It wasn't a musical masterwork. I don't think failing to take a novelty song seriously is racist? I guess? I don't know, maybe I'm just a secret racist though.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree... I don't really get why Gangnam Style became such a giant meme (frankly, it's only vaguely entertaining to me, *unpopular opinion*) but I know for a fact that my opinion would be exactly the same, no matter the race of the person who sang it or the language it was in. IDK.

[(Anonymous)]

Something that makes me wonder is that I've never heard anyone call LMFAO's music "silly novelties." Even though they were just as silly, and most people have only heard of two songs by them. What's the difference, do you think? The only thing I can think of is race.

[(Anonymous)]

Really?

I don't know, I would definitely say that LMFAO's songs are silly novelties, and I don't know of anyone really taking their music at all seriously. They might not explicitly say that it's novelty, but I don't think the attitude is that different from Psy.

Can't speak for anyone else though, I guess.

[(Anonymous)]

It feels to me like Sexy and I Know It gets treated as "look at these two guys pelvic thrusting in speedos, lol" and Gangnam Style gets treated as "look at this wacky foreign guy and his horse dance, lol Asians."

When it got to the point where hecklers were yelling at any and all Korean entertainers to "shut up and just do the horse dance," you could tell they perceived it as an "Asian thing" and not just a "funny thing."

[(Anonymous)]

A lot more people have heard of Psy than LMFAO. It's very likely people would say their songs are silly novelties if they actually heard them.

[itstopped]

This seems like a false dichotomy to me. I've never heard LMFAO referred to as anything but a goofy novelty act. There have been black novelty songs, white novelty songs...

[(Anonymous)]

I think the problem was that a silly novelty song like Gangnam Style is probably the biggest hit out of Korea in the US. Like, there are tons of K-Pop artists that wanted to break out in America seriously but this silly song was the biggest thing and it wasn't even meant to be. And there's kind of a feeling that it got big because Westerns are like "OH LOOK AT THE SILLY ASIAN MAN ASIA'S SO WACKY" and that's what's kinda the problem?? Sorry if this doesn't make too much sense but basically, the most famous thing out of Korea is a wacky, silly, pretty much joke music video and that's what it'll be known for for awhile now.

[(Anonymous)]

I think that the trouble with selling a lot of K-Pop to a US autidence is that a lot of it's the sort of boyband and girlband music that's going to sell best when the audience is familiar with the language (think teenage girls posting lyric lines to match their moods on tumblr). Gangnam Style on the other hand is a dance track with a funny video and a catchphrase (you don't need to understand the nuances of the lyrics). Same kind of feel as the Eurodance tracks I heard when I was out clubbing in the early 00s.

[(Anonymous)]

nah, people just like stuff now that's different from boy and girl band stuff. that's why kyary managed to get an audience beyond just people into kpop. it had some crossover appeal because here people either look down on boy bands or think we have enough of our own. see also how people used to cream themselves over lady gaga when she made ~wacky~ music videos, how people made memes out of kesha and lmfao.

[tabaqui]

It actually wasn't. It's actually fairly serious political commentary.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/sep/19/the-social-commentary-behind-psys-gangnam-style/?page=all

You just have to, you know, be curious.

[(Anonymous)]

no it's still a silly novelty pop song

it's one that maybe has a serious message behind it, or at least comes from the context of a political critique that people make, but that doesn't make it in itself serious political commentary. the fact that it deals with or is related to serious issues does not make it in itself serious.

[(Anonymous)]

It's a silly novelty song which also contains serious socioeconomic parody. It can do both.

[(Anonymous)]

It was not a novelty song.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm still trying to decide how I feel about Gentleman. I liked Gangnam Style because it was silly and fun. Maybe if I'd heard Gentleman without watching the music video (which was so weird. I liked the outtakes at the end of the official video more, when they were laughing at each other) I'd like it more but right now I'm just like "Wait what?"

[case]

can I just use this thread as an excuse to link awesome psy videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7yGwXb77PA

I wish he'd done this as a re-release/MV after Gangnam, I think the major thing about Gentleman is that it wasn't as high-energy as people were expecting

[(Anonymous)]

That link is awesome! Made me smile and want to get up and dance.

[(Anonymous)]

you do know that no one in Asia actually takes gangnum style seriously...
everyone just thinks he's a music producer's son and that's his only reason for making music and $$$

it's like the biggest joke of the decade.

[itstopped]

Depends on what you mean by "in Asia" and "seriously."

[(Anonymous)]

by asia i mean SE Asia, so Korea, Japan, Hong Kong, rest of China etc etc.
as it no one really thinks it's good music but of course people still play it along with copying the dance routine

Interesting 'behind the lyrics' of the song....

[tabaqui]

*link*
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/sep/19/the-social-commentary-behind-psys-gangnam-style/?page=all

Re: Interesting 'behind the lyrics' of the song....

[(Anonymous)]

When the song first popped up on the radio in my country I researched it because I wanted to understand the lyrics (I do this a lot on songs in languages I can't speak myself) and I was quite baffled by how so many people thought it was just silly nonsense.

[(Anonymous)]

the patronizing, (sometimes desexualizing) comedic treatment of asian men is unfortunately a long-standing 'thing' that's probably not going away any time soon, OP

[(Anonymous)]

Well I think musically Gentleman is a better song than Gangnam Style.