[ SECRET POST #2301 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2301 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Sorry for lateness, had internet issues.

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Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 078 secrets from Secret Submission Post #329.
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Comments

[sugar_spun]

I think there's some obvious truth to the fact that the Doctor goes overboard controlling the lives and fates of entire species--but I think the issue is that River's lectures are too meta. They're from a fan's POV; a fan who gets uncomfortable with the level of godmode-ing that the Doctor exacts often enough, but yet within the context of the series is meant to come off as just and fair. So we get a lecture about how he's wrong, yet the tone of the show doesn't regard him as having been wrong in the first place. The show is about an immortal alien saving the universe constantly.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, in order to get him to change his ways properly, it would have been much better if he'd gone "you know, that thing that happened when everyone tossed me into the Pandorica was Really Not Good. I should probably do something about my reputation so it doesn't happen again." And maybe have him spread rumors throughout time and space that he's actually just an eccentric goofball who's...like...the Whoniverse version of Oz, to undermine his scary rep.

Instead we get River...basically telling him how horrible it is that his enemies are afraid of him because he's capable of stopping them from killing innocent people. Which is justified by a plot to kill him that could have been carried out by basically anyone with a gun. Which he fixes by...um...going around changing timelines and erasing himself from history and from people's memories. Because that's totally being less controlling *facepalm*

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

I am suddenly seeing this as a sign of just how screwed up River is. After all, she did get raised to be a Laser-guided Tykebomb (look it up on TV Tropes), directed at the Doctor.

[(Anonymous)]

Yup. The answer to which is...just stop writing godmodes. No one's going to complain if it seems like there was this one period where he needed to god-mode a lot, but he doesn't anymore. No one complained when all the death and misery of Five's era just kinda stopped happening. And no one complained when all the earth invasions of Three's era just kinda stopped happening. And it's not because audiences were easier to please back then, it's because it's genuinely not a big deal. Patterns like that happen IRL all the time. Look at this past fucking week.

Or if you must, just write an episode demonstrating that species' can take care of themselves and don't need him to do everything.

But Moffat kind of seemed to pretend/retcon that the Doctor constantly does unnecessarily OTT stuff like in A Good Man Goes To War which...he really doesn't. He's always been very much reactive to danger/injustice that was already occurring.