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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-25 06:55 pm

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[personal profile] unicornherds 2013-04-25 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
When you say "drastically but realistically different from canon" do you mean it's still the character you recognize but in significantly different situation/reality? Because I am all over that. Nothing wrong with that type of AU at all.

Unless you mean you can't even recognize the character anymore and the only thing they share is a name. Then I don't know what to say.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-25 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude, comment twins. I was seconds behind you. XD

[personal profile] unicornherds 2013-04-25 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)


Though you were much more succinct! (As is usually the case with me.)
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[personal profile] elaminator 2013-04-26 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
+1.

I love AU's. I eat AU's up. But if the characters aren't recognizable I'll usually stop reading no matter how interesting the premise.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-27 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
I think they mean it's basically the same character, but changed slightly to fit the universe and their life in it.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-25 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
When you say "drastically but realistically," do you mean canon divergence? Or do you mean entirely different life, but recognizably the same character?

Whatever, I love AUs, I've just never heard it put that way before. :)

(Anonymous) 2013-04-25 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I love AUs like whoa. Dropping the characters in a non-canonical setting/situation is always fun, though the characters really do have to be as IC as possible.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-26 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed. And I thought that's what the point of an AU was? Just to take the character and to put them in a different situation? Otherwise I just see it as an excuse for the author to make the character(s) OOC as possible. I enjoy AU's, but they have to be well-done and IC.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-26 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
AUs bring up the whole nature vs nurture thing in interesting ways. Some things about characters' personalities should remain and be inherent but I think there'd definitely be big differences in how they interact with the world based on a different life experience. Like if a character is scarred and paranoid due to war PTSD, if you throw them into a high school AU they probably won't act the same way (and keeping them TOO canon IC can throw me out of the fic entirely - like if they give him another form of bad experience to explain it that's one thing but usually they're acting the same way for no good reason)

(Anonymous) 2013-04-26 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
I have absolutely no preference whether a character is rigidly canon or wildly different. If the story is good, the author can go wherever they like and I'll follow.

I have very little sympathy for people who complain that fanfic isn't canon enough to suit them. Probably because the ones I've seen do it frequently have been such utter stamp-their-feet-slam-the-bedroom-door children about it. People write and read fanfic for such very different reasons, and there's possibly nothing more "uniquely you" (to borrow an awful though apt phrase) than how your imagination works. Of course fic is going to run the gamut in every conceivable way.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-26 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
I once read a BBT fanfic where Penny had the genius IQ and Sheldon's was average, and also everyone else was gender-swapped. They were very different from canon, BUT the differences totally made sense due to the changes and they were still recognizably them, just with that one big twist...I really liked that idea. So if that's what you're talking about, I agree!

If your talking about the ones that are basically original stories with original characters, and the names are basically being used as fancasting for your original fiction, then not really my thing.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-26 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)
...link?
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You must love Merlin fandom, then...

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-04-26 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
...or really, really hate it. It can go both ways, I suppose. :P

Though what exactly does "drastically but realistically different from canon" mean?
Edited 2013-04-26 02:40 (UTC)

picture's source?

(Anonymous) 2013-04-26 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
sorry for the veering off-topic, but where did you find that image?

I like aus too, to be more on-topic, provided that I can buy the characterization given the context

Re: picture's source?

(Anonymous) 2013-04-26 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
Looks like the artist took it down.
Her page on the original site: http://fineartamerica.com/profiles/cathie-douglas.html
Original image: images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/alternate-universe-cathie-douglas.jpg

Re: picture's source?

(Anonymous) 2013-04-26 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
goodness, thank you!!

Re: picture's source?

(Anonymous) 2013-04-26 05:48 am (UTC)(link)
:)

(Anonymous) 2013-04-26 06:40 am (UTC)(link)
Totally agree with OP, her wardrobe is fab and very street, nothing fancy. But I follow a blog and turns out her clothings are actually very expensive. A lot of them are secretly brand-name clothings.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-04-26 03:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, characters can be drastically different in a highly conspicuous way that makes their original personality kind of stand out by its very absence. Like, the canon can be there by implication, you know?

For example, if I ran into a Harry Potter AU where Snape was a friendly teacher who spent every evening watering the lilacs in his front garden and talking to the neighborhood children who were comfortable enough with him to call him "Old Beak Nose", I'd be very, very, very interested in exactly why he grew up like that instead of the way he did in canon: exactly what canon events happened differently, why they affected him differently than they did in canon, and what this drastic change in personality implies about the nature of that event and the importance of that canon event's effect on that character and all the resultant implications.

So you know, the canon personality is still there, in the reader's mind, and the writer could be working from the assumption that the reader knows what the canon personality is, sees the difference between canon and the AU, and wants to know wtf happened to Snape to make him like this and why.

(Honestly, I like these more than most genre/situation AUs)

(Anonymous) 2013-04-26 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
drastically but realistically different?

how does that work?

if they're different, they're not the same.

I don't mean just in canon history/backstory. I mean if they're different, then they're not the same. seems to me different would include personality and all the things that make the character the fucking character.

not the same = different.

so all you have is a character that is similar in NAME ONLY.

which is so. fucking. lame. all you're doing is using paper dolls as your stand ins for your original characters. which is fine, knock yourself out but stop trying to defend yourselves that it's TOTES THE SAME ONLY DIFFERENT.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-27 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
That's not a big deal. People who whine about ~intellectual honesty~ need to get that just because they don't see the entertainment value in something doesn't mean other people can't or they're inferior. Nerd culture...