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fandomsecrets2013-04-26 06:50 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2013-04-26 06:50 pm
[ SECRET POST #2306 ]
⌈ Secret Post #2306 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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06. http://i.imgur.com/oVNCgcT.png
[kind of porny, illustrated, Hetalia]
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[Pokemon]
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[ ----- SPOILERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]
09. [SPOILERS for Kingdom Hearts]
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10. [SPOILERS for Spartacus]
http://i.imgur.com/OtBhrXi.png
[gore? kind of, i think, live-action]
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11. [SPOILERS for Game of Thrones]
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[ ----- TRIGGERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]
12. [WARNING for rape]
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13. [WARNING for child abuse]
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14. [WARNING for loli/shota]
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Notes:
Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #329.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-27 07:23 am (UTC)(link)Two: Feminism has never been a united cause. There have been popular causes within the each wave, but every women's studies teacher worth their salt will tell you no wave has ever been completely united -- and the Third Wave, THIS wave, is the least united of all! Because there is nothing like the suffrage movement, or access to basic education, health care, jobs.
Yes, we are still fighting, in many ways, to achieve real social equality, but in many ways we see women attacking women in the name of feminism and women's rights. We see extremists on both sides: Saying if a woman presents herself as effeminate, "girly" that she is a danger to the cause. But this is mysogynistic in its assumption that the effeminate are weak; that they are supporting a woman-hating "agenda" which men (~*because all men are evil*~) so long to enforce upon women, once again. Saying if a woman presents herself as butch, "manly" that she just wants to *be* a man. This nonsense simply harkens back to Freud's beloved "penis envy" theories, invalidating their arguments, and therefore positions, and women, wherein the mysogyny should be plain: telling a woman that she is not a real woman because of her gendered presentation is blatantly hateful.
Just look at the spectrum of feminism we have going, today. There are women who would love it if mpreg were a real thing who call themselves feminists; who go so far as to claim that vaginal penetration is a crime upon a woman's body, and no woman should allow such a thing to be done (a real, live quote from a feminist friend). If you've ever read Margaret Atwood's "The Handmaid's Tale" there are women who would fight for a SaHM society to come back, and THEY call themselves feminists. It was easier to define "feminism" when there was a larger like (the aforementioned suffrage, access to basic education, etc). It's not nearly so easy, now, as so many people define feminism in so many ways.
But any attack on a women -- any judgement because of her sex, gendered presentation, whatever -- is mysogynistic. There are no hard-and-fast rules for any side, or any view. Everything in these arguments is an opinion.
Finally: Where you are flagrantly, abhorrently WRONG is in claiming that someone will or is trying to "tarnish the cause." Just because you don't think feminists can be mysogynistic, regardless of the form of the hate, doesn't mean that someone else doesn't see it. A single gripe about how celebrity shouldn't be wearing those tiny shorts because they're coming off as a whore is mysogynistic. Even if we've caught ourselves now, and have started changing our words and thoughts, doesn't mean we didn't do it in the past. We all have. Society gets you, and you have to work to pull yourself out and look at it with more scrutiny. Including those little comments and judgements.
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-27 07:58 am (UTC)(link)no subject
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