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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-27 03:53 pm

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Why do people like dub-con?

(Anonymous) 2013-04-27 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm just curious about what kinds of different reasons there are for the kink, so tell us, FS, what is your reason for liking dub-con? What makes it particularly appealing to you?

Or conversely, if you really hate the kink, what makes you hate it so much?

Re: Why do people like dub-con?

(Anonymous) 2013-04-27 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the media I consumed when I was little had female characters that played hard-to-get and that sort of morphed into a dubcon fantasy. I've always been turned on by characters being forced into really awkward or uncomfortable situations and fighting with themselves because they don't want to want it as much as they do.

Re: Why do people like dub-con?

(Anonymous) 2013-04-27 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I like power play and tension, and dub-con gives me plenty of that. Plus, it's a safe outlet for all those fantasies that just wouldn't work in RL because I prefer to be safe mentally and physically, and living them out would be potentially precarious.
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Re: Why do people like dub-con?

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2013-04-27 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I like complicated power dynamics, I guess. I only like it in certain contexts, it's hard to explain. I just think there's this giant scope of behaviors and emotions people can have, and a lot of it in in morally gray area's.

Re: Why do people like dub-con?

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2013-04-28 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
I clicked on link to like this. :/
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Re: Why do people like dub-con?

(Anonymous) 2013-04-27 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
for me,it's kind of a 'will they/won't they' scenario. the characters will get it on and will like it,but it's the build-up i care for. the emotions they feel,their thoughts,the situation they're in,why they're ~doubting~ their actions etc

also,i think it somehow feels better than non-con.i mean,i get that,in an irl situation,all dub-con fics can/will pass as rape,but in fic,i can live under the pretense it's not.

i don't think this doesn't make any sense at all.

Re: Why do people like dub-con?

(Anonymous) 2013-04-28 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
I only like dub-con in the sense that some of the things I like are classed dub-con because consent is technically unable to be given. For example: fic where both characters are, say, 17 (in a place where 18 is required for adulthood) or where both characters are sex-pollened/drunk/under some influence. I really like outside-influence-gets-couple-together fic, and those tend to be dub-con. :/

Re: Why do people like dub-con?

(Anonymous) 2013-04-28 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
I like dub-con for a couple of (fairly unrelated) reasons:

1) All of my kinks tend to center around control and the idea of someone with super-tight self-control being forced into losing that control because it's the only way they can...so, if that makes sense, that's why dub-con appeals to me sometimes. The whole sense of being forcibly given something you can't take or ask for yourself. Or maybe even something you didn't know you wanted/needed.

2) I find the actual physical nerves-and-hormones reaction of sex really awesome, so situations that emphasize the purely physical nature of arousal and sex rather than any kind of romance or emotion--or even in opposition to them--yeah, that's hot.

Re: Why do people like dub-con?

(Anonymous) 2013-04-28 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
I prefer flat-out non-con, but sometimes dub-con pushes the same buttons if the con is dub enough.

Re: Why do people like dub-con?

(Anonymous) 2013-04-28 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
I only read it generally in certain situations. Like if there are two people I think would be hot together but who I could never, ever see getting together in a realistic way, I'll enjoy reading "sex pollen" type fic that forces them to be together.

Re: Why do people like dub-con?

(Anonymous) 2013-04-28 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
Personally, I really really like how the power dynamics work when it's done a certain way. /picky about her dub-con though so.

Re: Why do people like dub-con?

(Anonymous) 2013-04-28 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
In fic, I tend to like relationships with uneven power dynamics, which can involve dub-con. I have to be in a particular mood to enjoy it, though.

Mostly I tend to like exploring when characters overcome uneven power dynamics.

But the thing I absolutely hate is when it's not labelled or warned for as dub-con, and just portrayed as "romantic" or some shit.

intrigueing: (buffy eww)

Re: Why do people like dub-con?

[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-04-28 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm...dub-con applies to quite a few very different scenarios, so lemme see...

1) That old animalistic, primitive urge idea. All the stuff that totally doesn't fly in real life because it's actually kind of really fucking messed up, but which you kind of understand the idea of and you maybe sometimes kind of wish it worked more like it did in old un-PC movies, the way you wish people could jump through windows without gouging their arteries open. Stuff like the idea of UST/teasing ratcheting up to the point where one character just kind of snaps, initiating without express or implied consent but that doesn't go as far as ignoring persistent protests or obvious DNW, resisting at first but then liking it, really strong jealousy, anger, intimidation, punishment that overrides consideration. All stuff that doesn't work that way IRL, but acknowledging that it's dub-con makes those things easier to enjoy in fic.

2) With some characters, especially in fiction that's not terribly realistic, it's sometimes almost OOC to imagine certain characters sleeping with other certain characters in a perfectly reasonable adult fashion, and there's the whole idea of a character whom the reader knows really wants and needs and would benefit from and enjoy it being strong-armed into it by another character, if the first character is too blind or proud to admit they want it.

3) all the ol' speculative fiction stuff. Aliens made them do it, super-aphrodisiacs, fuck or die, identity porn, massive power differentials, etc.

4) Older teenager/legal adult, mainly in situations where the teenager's life makes them functionally adults in many ways.