[ SECRET POST #2307 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2307 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

everyone seemed to do fine before "trigger" even entered common parlance

No we didn't. We weren't fucking 'fine' at all. And fuck you for thinking my flashbacks aren't real. You don't think I'd love to be read and watch some of the things my friends do?

I also didn't realize that tv and movie rating were a recent thing.

[starphotographs]

I know ratings aren't recent (well, in the scheme of things, they might be), but they don't seem to get as specific as I've seen trigger warnings get, so they don't tend to bother me as much.

I'm all for people knowing what kind of story they're going to be reading, seeing as that's how you generate interest. I just think, if you have a well-written summary, and a possibly a rating if you're someone that uses them/made something in a context where they're generally used, an individual category for specific triggers is redundant at best and spolery/misleading at worst.

[(Anonymous)]

In America, TV ratings are a recent thing. They've been around less than 20 years and the subcategories are so few that they're meaningless. S can mean anything from a kiss to rape. Rape would also have V but a show with people kissing and another scene where someone says "I'm going to get you for this!" would carry the same rating and subratings.

And movie ratings (which aren't required by law, only certain movie studios) have been a slowly evolving thing that started as a general guideline of age-appropriateness for the audience (and with a lot less ratings than we use now) into "This is who is allowed to see the movie under what circumstances and these are the exact reasons why." Independent theaters showing movies that don't fall under the corporate-controlled MPAA have been gaining a lot of popularity in large cities and more studios are refusing to join the MPAA as a result.

[starphotographs]

I wanted to get in to this in my comment, but I thought it would be too tangent-y. You're a cool anon!

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks :) And yeah, it is very tangent-y but it's something I feel very strongly about. I hate the TV ratings system because the concept (to help parents shield their children from content they deemed unsuitable) was great but the taxpayer-funded execution fell drastically short at the expense of the viewers. We're left with a big block of meaningless text obscuring the program for 15 seconds and the TV studios gave up trying to film shows in a way that nothing important would be missed a long time ago.

And the MPAA...ugh. Spare me the Hollywood executives who think they know what is best for people. The ratings themselves aren't bad, it's the way the MPAA has strong-armed theaters and retailers into accepting their ratings as law. That's why most major brick and mortar retailers don't carry independent films; they cannot sell DVDs from any of the studios who are part of the MPAA if they sell DVDs from studios that aren't part of the MPAA. It's a hell of a racket and it sickens me how many people just accept it or worse, think it can't be any other way.

[starphotographs]

It's totally cool, I'm in to tangents. :D

I remember when the TV rating system debuted. I was just a kid at the time, but I remember thinking it was weird and cumbersome even then. Why is it TV-14 when it's equivalent to or even slightly tamer than a film that would be rated PG-13? What is the exact line between Y, Y7, and G? Why are V and FV different things? Isn't that splitting hairs? Ack! So dumb.

And don't get me started on the MPAA. Strong-armed is the perfect word for it. D:

[(Anonymous)]

Displaying the TV ratings was supposed to be only a temporary thing. They were going to code the ratings into the content (which they did) so viewers could program their TV or digital receiver to block them. Displaying the rating was only for viewers who didn't have a (then very new) TV that could block them or a digital receiver. But TVs like that have been in production for so long and digital transmission is now universal and we're still stuck with that stupid ratings box that was supposed to be optional by now.

I can actually kind of see why V and FV are different things because some parents might be ok with their kids watching something like Korra but still want to block content that has a V subrating. I'm usually in favor of less regulation but I think if we're going to have TV ratings, then there should be a few more categories so anyone actually using the ratings can get a realistic idea of what the severity is of the content.

[starphotographs]

Ohhhhhh yeeeeeeah... I think I remember that they weren't supposed to be permanent! That didn't work out, apparently. (I also think I remember that a few years after they came out, someone must have decided that it wasn't good enough to just display them at the beginning of the program, because they started popping up after every freakin' commercial break. :/)

I actually came across an explanation of why they're different things a few years ago, and I got it, but it still kind of bothers my brain, because, say, a realistically graphic depiction of a dragon burning a guy alive is... Still fantastical. XD But they don't say that. I mean, I know why it's a thing, but it seems arbitrary.

And yeah, the little content letter thingies... Don't really tell you much.

[making_excuses]

Wait? You guys have ratings on television shows? How does that work?

Only rating we have on Norwegian TV is when films are showed and that is just "This film is recommended for people above the age of 15" it might have an add on about violence, but I don't watch a lot of films on television.

Other than that shows children shouldn't watch either is on channels that aren't for children or broadcast after children should have gone to sleep. Then again we don't censor swearing either or nudity so?

What I am trying to say is: How on earth does that work? Seriously, does Cougar Town and Elementary have a rating?

[wandering_fox]

We sure do:

http://www.tvguidelines.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_Parental_Guidelines

And you know, I am not sure what they are rated because I've learned to completely tune out the little rating box. Elementary is probably TV14, maybe M, and Cougar Town is probably PG, but I could be wrong.