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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-27 03:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2307 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2307 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-04-27 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
You can have an informed opinion about the game that results in you disliking it that doesn't require you to call it dumbed-down or boardgamey.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-27 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
And re: "informed decision"; I meant with that that I have play experience - lots! - both with his preferred game and mine, whereas he doesn't have play experience with 4e. I didn't mean to insinuate that my preferences are inherently better or anything. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-27 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
What if his informed opinion IS that it's overly-simplified and feels like a board game, though? Having played a bit of 4e myself, it felt more like an MMO to me than a board game, but that may be because my DM hated using miniatures or terrain maps. I also felt restricted by the lack of character options (though that may have been because fewer supplements were out yet at the time), so I can see where the criticisms of it being overly-streamlined and too simple come from.

Is it the opinions he has, or the way he phrases them, that bothers you? If he avoided using those words, but still told people that he considered it to be an objectively inferior game because it offered fewer customization options and forced combat into a more linear mode (or whatever, but phrased more objectively), would you still feel offended?

(Anonymous) 2013-04-28 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it's mostly the way he phrases it. There's ways to say "This game doesn't offer a robust enough out-of-combat experience in my opinion" that don't rely on saying it's just a board game or whatever.