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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-27 03:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2307 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2307 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-04-28 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
DA

OC does not necessarily mean "Mary Sue." The only OC that AYRT described didn't sound like a perfect speshul snowflake to me. And AYRT talked a lot more about how they wanted to develop (not change, as that implies that the shift doesn't organically follow from the events in the story, but is instead "pastede on") the canon characters rather than anything about the OCs.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-28 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
The only time an OC is acceptable in a fanfic is if the fandom was of the villain or adventure of the week/book variety. Anything other than that is an author importing their own original fic into it. That is the start of Mary Sueism. If you need an OC as a protagonist or primary antagonist then you've fucked up the whole fanfic concept.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-28 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
The OCs are not protagonists. The canon cast of the show is. The focus is how they react to every little thing and how they deal with it.

-Danny and Tucker deal with a roommate that doesn't know their secret ad trying to hide it.

-Sam deals with a boy she has liked and was getting close to finding a relationship with going back to an ex-girlfriend. She also has to room with this girlfriend who is one of the few people here she knows.

-Valerie likewise, has to deal with a girl who she has a rivalry with and who really likes her boyfriend and has known him longer than she has. This girl is her roommate.

-Jazmine has to deal with living with the two of these girls who both like her brother in one form or another. She also discovers that the community / school she's in has a less than favorable view of psychology , which is something she is interested in.

-Vlad (the series antagonist) finds a way to get something he has been wanting for a very long time, the affections of the woman he loved in college and getting his rival and teenage best friend out of the way to do it. But the person who's offering it to him has morally questionable methods and traits that make him take a hard look at himself.

Also I know a few well done fics that prove that at least partly untrue. The Alexandria Quick series for Harry Potter. It doesn't feature the HP characters, just the world, because let's face it , it's an interesting world, and I'm not going to just not explore the world because of what you think is "acceptable".

I think a lot of non-fanfic writers would find the idea that original characters and original content is considered "bad writing" to be completly and utterly fucking ridiculous. People might not want to read it? Sure. True.

Some people don't like reading sci-fi or fantasy books. Does that make them "bad writing"? Some people don't like books about a certain topic or time period they find boring. Are using those topics and time periods bad writing? Hell no.

So you can keep your writing standards for yourself. But don't try to state them as objective fact. Anything can be written poorly. Shipfic if often written poorly, and so is fanfic about just the canon characters, but neither of those are wrong.

[personal profile] jaybie_jarrett 2013-04-28 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, thank you!

That's what I was trying to say. the person I've been talking to seems to have just read some OCs they don't like and they're stuck in bitching mode.